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Originally posted by Cyril Cyril wrote:

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Quote But there are some people on earth who distorted, tampered these Holy books


Who, when and where? It is not only your credibility which is at stake.

Those who translated the Holy Books in different languages are the ones by which those Holy Books got distorted and tampered.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote superme Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2006 at 1:10am
Originally posted by Muhammad77 Muhammad77 wrote:

Originally posted by Cyril Cyril wrote:

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Quote But there are some people on earth who distorted, tampered these Holy books


Who, when and where? It is not only your credibility which is at stake.

Those who translated the Holy Books in different languages are the ones by which those Holy Books got distorted and tampered.

Muhammad, how do you get into this conclusion, that the translators are the corruptors instead of the copyist? Just curious you know.

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All copies of the Bible are the same. Where are the distorted ones?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BMZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 September 2006 at 8:52pm

superme,

"Muhammad, how do you get into this conclusion, that the translators are the corruptors instead of the copyist? Just curious you know."

Good question to Muhammad.

Muhammad, that is a huge tip from superme. If you cannot capitalise on this tip, Cyril's question still stands!

superme,

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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

Muhammad, that is a huge tip from superme. If you cannot capitalise on this tip, Cyril's question still stands!

Actually it was not tip at all, just wondering why Muhammad was so sure that the translators were the corruptors. I have never seen the original manuscripts, beside they are in Greeks.

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Originally posted by superme superme wrote:

Originally posted by Muhammad77 Muhammad77 wrote:

Originally posted by Cyril Cyril wrote:

Muhammad

Quote But there are some people on earth who distorted, tampered these Holy books


Who, when and where? It is not only your credibility which is at stake.

Those who translated the Holy Books in different languages are the ones by which those Holy Books got distorted and tampered.

Muhammad, how do you get into this conclusion, that the translators are the corruptors instead of the copyist? Just curious you know.

I do not know about their intentions. The Holy Books got distorted and tampered when they were translated into different languages by the translators.

 

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superme,

No comments.

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Okay I'll bite.
I've read and was forced in school (yeshivah) to study and memorize the
Torah (old testament) In it's original hebrew. By the time I was Bar Mitzvah
(13) I could recite/sing it pole to pole.

The King James (Standard English Bible) Is different in some places.
Mostly it's just a word here and there with a pivotal meaning. But bear in
mind that some of these mistakes are devastatingly different from the
gentle intent of this book. For this reason I would never entirely trust an
English version of the Quran with out consulting a Muslim scholar fluent
in formal arabic.

Like the Quran the Torah is sung and is governed by a series of rules
hedged in continuity. Some rules are based in musical phrasing while
some are embedded in gemetria (possibly an after thought but very hip)
but mostly the key is in strict gramtical laws that are in place to insure yet
another level of continuity. It's a code a series of codes really to insure
that no one changes anything with out it leaving a visible scar.

Here's an expert to read up on. I think he made us all look good in the
eyes of Allah.

The Rambam (Maimonedes) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides
Has always been my favorite theological scholar

His father was, through no fault of his own at odds with the politics of
religion in spain (Cordova) at the time. The whole family was forced to
move to Alexandria (Egypt) The son had great respect for Islam and
benifited himself, his family and contributed to the worlds knowledge and
practice of medical science. He discovered and devised treatments that
are still healing people today physically, mentally and spiritually. This
was largely due to the tolerance of the then king of Egypt who was an
equal opportunity employer.

When people of different Faiths and Races put their heads together for a
good cause it really annoys Satan.

Edited by Daniel Dworsky
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