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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Israfil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2006 at 12:28pm
LOL  Angela yeah I emailed you..I was discussing an issue.....You felt uncomfortable...Yeah if you wish to sling mud I'll sling mud with you....Dont think you are without flaw either.....So go ahead and sling mud...but on second thought for a person such as yourself who adopts two religions you'd think you'd learn by now
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2006 at 11:46am

Because it took me three times telling you to knock it off when you were emailing my private email.  Or would  you like me to post where I told you to knock it off and then you came back and started going off about how you though I was your friend and how I was being oversensitive.  Buddy, that's harassment. 

Oh, and I could mention another incident of harassment by you, but I've promised the sisters involved I wouldn't use names. 

The internet is a public place, but PMs are PRIVATE MESSAGES.  If a woman doesn't want to talk to a man in private, its her right.  You calling it being uptight is acting like it isn't her right.

Israfil...I've learned one important thing from my last year dealing with you.  You don't like being told your wrong and you don't like the word "No."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Israfil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2006 at 11:09am
LOL I'm one of the worst? First off I don't aggressively pursue women here. If they say no I leave it alone I'm merely stating my case. Where do you get the idea I don't take no for an answer? It is being uptight...You call it comfort level I call it being uptight. Its obvious some women here cannot note the difference between a Personal computer and public place. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2006 at 10:14am
The problem is some women do not feel comfortable talking to men in private.  You should respect that.  Its not about being uptight, its about comfort level.  You're one of the worst here for not taking no for an answer.  If a woman says she doesn't want to talk, then she doesn't.  Deal with it.  And don't call her uptight.
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As a Muslim, if I were married and a fellow brother asked my wife questions which are not intimate, I'd have no problem with this. Sorry to say a woman can be a teacher of men! can't judge everything basded on your own experience and I don't think it hurts to answer a brothers question. Like I said many women are too uptight here. As long as the guy is not indicating he wants more thn what he is asking and as long as he is not asking intimate things whats the problem?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angela Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2006 at 9:21am

Israfil,

Perhaps I should point out why I consider it inappropriate.  I met my husband online.  We developed a close friendship that later became love.  I personally know how the little bits of data back and forth can lead to something very inimate.

One of my Prophets once instructed us to "avoid even the appearance of evil." 

I usually look over the question and determine comfort level.  But many Muslimahs would be even less comfortable about some things I've been asked than I was. 

Perhaps a good rule of thumb is, would you feel comfortable with another man asking your sister this question.  If you are unsure, then its best not to ask.

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True, but I'm having a hard time of why this would be inappropriate. First off the internet is not a physical public place. Its an "electronic environment" of socializing but I don't think this type of environement is an intimate setting much like park or a resturant. Yes we all have the right to tell people politely not to send PM's but the question is why. If I PM a woman its because I have a question that can only be answered by a woman. Now out of sincerity I may ask this question, out of arrogance a woman may feel that I'm just pushing up on her. I think much like the woman who has the right to reject I as a man have the right to question....Yes simple as that....I've gotten to the point that a lot of women with the exception of a few I can note Sister Herjihad as one whom is cool people in my book, that, women here are uptight. This is internet people!
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Israfil,

I disagree.  Sometimes the posts are just wholy unwelcomed.  The women have every right to tell a man they do not wish to receive messages from them.  Any messages after that are strictly harassment.  I think that instead of deleting it, its best to just let the person know that you are not interested in private conversation.

I know I've been actually hit on twice since I've been here.  TWICE!  Both men were informed very curtly that I was a married woman and it was inappropriate for them to be private messaging me.  End of story. 

The best thing a man can do is send a message asking if they may inquire privately about an issue.  If the woman does not want to do so, then she can say No then.  Easy and no feelings hurt.

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