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Andalus 
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 Topic: Interesting Statement by Annie2
Posted: 19 June 2006 at 4:31pm |
I find your statment form another site of interest.
 Annie2 wrote:
Not only did I "research" Islam, I considered the religion of Islam before I became a Christian. I had two Muslim teachers--very knowledgeble teachers.
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Really? So could you tell us who gave them their ijaaza?
I am asking because you seem to be everything but knowledgeable about Islam. What I mean is that your understanding comes straight from polemical sites on Islam. So it is a curious statement.
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BMZ
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Posted: 19 June 2006 at 5:37pm |
Andalus,
That is a very correct observation. What site is that?  Would you to able to share that with me? I would like to see Annie in action there.
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AnnieTwo
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Posted: 20 June 2006 at 10:38am |
Andalus wrote:
I find your statment form another site of interest.
Annie2 wrote:
Not only did I "research" Islam, I considered the religion of Islam
before I became a Christian. I had two Muslim teachers--very
knowledgeble teachers.
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Really? So could you tell us who gave them their ijaaza?
<>I am asking because you seem to be everything but knowledgeable about
Islam. What I mean is that your understanding comes straight from
polemical sites on Islam. So it is a curious statement.
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Andalus,
Not at all. I am among the many who have studied Islam and have
talked with Muslims about the religion of Islam. Two people
stand out in my mind, but I should include a third. We talked for
about one year, off and on. There was
also a special Muslim lady who was very kind and answered my
questions. I also have a girlfriend who also considered Islam and
has Muslim friends and we talk.
But first I studied the Qur'an. Yes, I do read the polemic sites,
both Christian and Islamic and I read books on the subject.
I did think that there could be some truth to Islam and that is why I
considered it. I have also considered Judaism and have studied it.
My choice was based on the knowledge I received in all of these areas.
Annie
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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4
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Patty
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Posted: 20 June 2006 at 12:09pm |
I believe it is to your credit that you kept an open mind, studied all the religions, and then based on what you studied, who you spoke with, and what you felt to be most accurate in your heart, made your decision. I'm quite sure you prayed about it, and obviously God led you where He wanted you.
God be with you always Annie.
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Patty
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Mishmish
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Posted: 20 June 2006 at 1:12pm |
I have to agree with the esteemed Brothers here. Your insight into Islam is not indicative of having studied, or of having studied with anyone of sincere knowledge.
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It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, what is essential is invisible to the eye. (The Little Prince)
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AnnieTwo
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Posted: 20 June 2006 at 3:09pm |
Patty wrote:
I believe it is to your credit that you kept an open
mind, studied all the religions, and then based on what you studied,
who you spoke with, and what you felt to be most accurate in your
heart, made your decision. I'm quite sure you prayed about it,
and obviously God led you where He wanted you.
God be with you always Annie. |
Thanks Patty.
Annie
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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4
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AnnieTwo
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Posted: 20 June 2006 at 3:16pm |
Mishmish wrote:
<>I have to agree with the esteemed Brothers here. Your insight into
Islam is not indicative of having studied, or of having studied with
anyone of sincere knowledge.
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On the contrary, it is because of study that I do have insight and
because I have studied what Muslims are not allowed to study. I
also listen to ex-Muslims and they are in tune with what I found
out. Funny, but the testimony of ex-Muslims came after my
decision, so they did not influence me, they reinforced what I had
already come to believe.
Also, in my contact with Muslims, and especially with personal contact,
I have found that Muslims do not understand Christianity and do not
want to understand it. But it was the same when Jesus walked the
earth. People in the first century didn't want to believe in him
either. They didn't want him to be their Messiah. They
rejected his way to peace. They wanted war and bloody swords, but
Jesus taught that that was not the way, that was not the way God wanted
it, but they would not listen and so they rejected him, just as they
reject Messiah Jesus today.
Annie
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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4
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Mishmish
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Posted: 20 June 2006 at 4:22pm |
Annie:
I was a Christian for 36 years. I understand Christianity. Your argument might work with someone who has never been in contact with Christians, never studied Christainity, or never been a Christian, but it doesn't work with me. There is not much that you can tell me here about Christianity that I have not heard before. I may not be extremely knowledgeable about all denominations, but I understand the basics very well. I became a Muslim at the age of 36. I wasn't born one.
I studied Islam for quite a while before I reverted. I also had everyone in my family thinking I was crazy, and committing a sin, so they were throwing everything they could at me about the evils of Islam.
Do you think that there is some secret stash of information out there about how eveil Islam is that I did not have access to? What could you possibly have studied that I, as a Christian, could not have studied, even it if was something Muslims are not allowed to study?
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West. All of these people becoming Muslims, were not Muslims first. So, even if there is some great conspiracy to keep Muslims from studying certain materials, these reverts would not be included in that group, would they?
Or, perhaps there's some way that these conspirators can tell ahead of time who might be likely to revert, so these deemed likely are also not allowed to read this secret material...Maybe we are marked from birth, so we just never even know it exists...
Perhaps you know ex-Muslims who hate Islam. I personally know one ex-Muslim. She doesn't hate Islam at all. She just wanted freedom. Freedom to do whatever she wanted and not have to answer to God for it. She admits this. Islam was just too hard for her, no drinking, no boyfriends, no pre-marital sex...
What insight do you have. You have shared nothing here that cannot be found on any anti-Islamic website. In some cases, verbatim...
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