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BMZ
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George, That is okay. I did understand you. By the way, what do you think of my suggestion to Annie, in my post at 6:10 am of 4th June 2006, regarding some proposed new words to replace the term "Begoteen"? |
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George
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AbRah and others,
In order to restore my reputation, I offer the following explanation for my conclusion of what AbRah was implying in his statement in green above. Please follow the dots: 1. AbRah says that God has no sons. Jesus is not the son of God for God has no sons! Then he followed up with: Since Christians believe that Jesus is God's son in the figurative sense and not in a biological sense, and they also believe that there is only one God, then what is AbRah trying to say?
Thanks. Sorry if I was too flip with my comment. I think you can see how I drew my conclusion. George |
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BMZ
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You are welcome AbRah. Wa Alaikum Assalaam and I have clarified that. Most of our dear Christian friends sometimes want to find the word "Begotten" in Qur'aan, they look for it and ask for it. It is the translation of a Greek word and no one knows what was the exact word or it's equivalent in Hebrew or Aramaic. God Amighty in Qur'aan denies that God has taken a son. There are no ifs and buts in Qur'aan about this. The message is that God has no son and does not need one. period. To keep the issue and the matter clear, God Almighty calls Jesus by the name "Son of Mary" which is more factual. It is not really necessary for Qur'aan to ask,"Has God begotten a son?" Qur'aan simply asks,"Has God got a son or Has God taken a Son?" The answer is Nay!
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AbRah2006
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Assalamulikum to you dear BMZ.....May Allah rewards you and your family for your good deeds.......Ameen..........Thank you very much for the explanation. I appreciate it very much. |
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God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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BMZ
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AbRah, From you: "AnnieTwo.....What do you mean by your claim above? Please show me my own comment! Please don't say anything that u have no proofs to show! I am waiting for your proofs!" It is no accusation, AbRah. George and Annie were talking about their general observations about Muslims. I have just clarifed that to Annie how offending is that word "Begotten" used only and exclusively by the Christians, themselves. BR & Salaam Alaikum BMZ
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BMZ
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Annie, From you: "amah, There is another meaning of the word Beget and that is "give rise to" or "cause". Would you consider these better than using "begotten"? Now, I am not suggesting that God procreated Jesus himself. That is the meaning of the word chosen by Christians. Muslims resent that word "Begotten" in English and write to object. So, if I say that God gave rise to Jesus in his virgin mother's womb or God caused Jesus to be born, would you be willing to throw away and discard the word "Begotten"? Edited by bmzsp |
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AbRah2006
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AnnieTwo.....What do you mean by your claim above? Please show me my own comment! Please don't say anything that u have no proofs to show! I am waiting for your proofs! Edited by AbRah2006 |
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God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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AnnieTwo
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amah, I have run into the same thing with Muslims that George apparently has. I don't know where it comes from. I read AbRah's post about his comment and I thought the same thing George did. I wonder what AbRah meant? Annie |
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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4
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