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Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:

...There is not one Prophet but Billions, we all have a voice for Allah
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"Billions" - And I thought Hadiths only mention the numbers to be 124,000!

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...We do not need to create a New religion We must create a new Spiritual Economies and Spiritual Environments. It means We are major stake holders in F.A.I.T.H. building with W.A.R.S. and everyone of Us is important to God...AmlHabibi2000

F.A.I.T.H.= Families and Individuals Investing in Trust, Truth and Hope= Helping overcome poverty, violence and ignorance effectively and spiritually.

W.A.R.S.= World Arising Responsibly and Spiritually

Next time include the definitions because then it makes more sense.

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There is not one Prophet but Billions, we all have a voice for Allah !

Revelations come through all of us for all things there are revelations in them.....

The time has come to give people back their Station and equality with all the inhabitians of heaven and earth....

The playing feild must be leveled before there can be lasting progress....

Then when you can see the following...


I believe We are the Messiah the Prophets, the manifestations of God and People of spirit a living Messiah in the Multitudes not one of us but all of us. We are all Messengers of God and we are all responsible for the care and well being of each other and the world.

To me this is what True Islam is all about....

True Islam sees an incredible Holy Spirit in everyone and places a high value on Our success as a people and a species and in how well we care for each other....

One person will never have all the answers because the kingdom of Allah is emmense and there is only so much a person can do....

What we can do is let no person go hungry, uneducated, uncounseled, unconsulted, unprayed for or left without recieving living prayers.

Inshallah may Allah help you to understand the importance of my thoughts on the Messiah and Prophethood situation....

I have ten billion people who will agree with me I am sure of it....
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Dear Rehmat

A Prophet is selected by Allah alone and any individual can't attain this status through any means. A Prophet was a Prophet in the Barzakh or the spritual world where Allah undertook oath from all Prophets but excluisively from 5 which are mentioned in Quran. In this world once he is born, he is born as a Prophet and once he will stand on the Day of Judgement he will stand as a Prophet where he will give the testimony that he had delivered the message. So once Jesus was raised up alive he was a Prophet and once he will come back he will still be a Prophet. But why will he come back? because there are serious alligations against him. Christians has given him the status of God and Jews even don,t recognise him.

The actual word for a Prophet is messanger so he will bring the message of God for Jews and Christians. Jews became eligible for divine punishment for rejections of Gods signs and Prophets but the matter was pended by God for some reason. They were not treated like AAd and Samod etc. So once he comes he will execute the pending task and will also refute the allegations against him.

But certainly he will come as no new Prophet or or as a last Prophet or to bring new message or a new religion. He will be the follower of Muhammad (PBUH) like of another common follower but his prophethood will not cease to exist. A Prophet is a Prophet and remains as a Prophet. The only thing is that he will come to eliminate the anti-christ and his followers, to deliver message for Christians that he never claimed to be a God or son of god.

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Dear Danial

Are you really a Jew? I am astonished to hear from a Jew that he says: There is definitely no belief in an anti christ anywhere in any version of the jewish religion unless you count Jews for Dodgers or something of the like.

Dear the focal point of the Zionism was the Coming Of The Messiah. It was Theodor Herzl who had reincarnated the concept of Messiah and that all Jews must carryout Allyiah to the Holy land before the Messiah comes. Brother I would not only suggest you to read the Bible but also the following books:

The Psychohistory of Zionism by Jay y Gonen

Rising Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel by Israel Shahak

These certainly will prove benificial for you. Jews were waiting for Messiah and they rejected Jesus and then Muhammad (Peace be on them all) and no Messiah has come so far since the Jewish Diaspora. So where did the concept go? If you happen to ask any of the Jew in Israel and belonging to Haridety party he will tell you that since 1917 the Messionic era has started and in fact we are living in that era. I think thay are absoletly right because we are in fact living in the Dajjali era and it is about to reach to its climax. And it will happen once the Jewish Messiah or the anti-christ for Muslims and Christians will appear.

It may happen within next 10-30 years or may be a little earlier or later. This is what our religious teachings foretells. Nostradamus has even described it earlier and he was a Jewish too though he later converted to Christanity.

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Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky Daniel Dworsky wrote:

Right. Why do you even answer this guy. Y'all only encourage him

Answer whom - you or the Bible?

In case you never touched the Bible - let me quote a few 'holy prophecies' for you:

1.  The Antichrist  - He is a Jew  - "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers . . .nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Daniel 11:37"

2.   He is from the tribe/region of Dan  - "We looked for peace, but no good came; and for a time of health, and behold trouble! The snorting of his horses was heard from Dan: the whole land trembled at the sound of the neighing of his strong ones; for they are come, and have devoured the land, and all that is in it; the city, and those that dwell therein. For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 8:15-17"

 3.    He is from the serpent's root - "Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent. . . Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.  Isaiah 14:29,31"

Quote There is definitely no belief in an anti christ anywhere in any version of the jewish religion unless you count Jews for Dodgers or
something of the like

"Dodgers", you say! - Certainly they were not during the time of Rev. Martin Luther - the Founder of the 'Protestants' - but he certainly told the world what he thought of the Jews. Would you like to have a free link to read his opinion of Jews?

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Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:

....We do not need to create a New religion We must create a new Spiritual Economies and Spiritual Environments. It means We are major stake holders in F.A.I.T.H. building with W.A.R.S. and everyone of Us is important to God.....

Well in case you don't know - God already have created 'such family for people like you'. He is the owner of 'City of London' - no other than Rothschild. Both Bush and Kerry are his agents.

 

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