They say that Allah hath begotten a son |
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BMZ
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George, Since I do not wish that you leave this site, I will not answer your post. Really there is too much work load and I will be back soon, InshaAllah. BMZ |
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George
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BMZ, Progress so far: I have proven that the Qur'an accuses Christians of believing that Jesus is the literal Son of God. I have proven that in the Hebrew Scriptures God is called Father. I have proven that Jesus called God Father and taught us to call Him father too. I have proven that God has sons in the figurative sense. On the other hand: You cannot come with one verse in the Qur'an where Allah says that he does not have sons in the figurative sense. I think I have you beat on this one, BMZ. I doubt that we will ever come across each other on an Islamic site again. I guess we have Cowboy to thank for the get-together you and I have shared on IC. My best wishes to you and your family. George |
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BMZ
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George, You have not proven anything yet. We haven't finished discussions yet. But if that pleases you, I will leave it at that. Best Regards & my best to you, your family and your dear brother too. Hope he is coming along fine. BMZ |
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George
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BMZ, You said: You will now realise that the Arabic word Takhazaa means has taken. The son is walad. Not so, Walad means child, not son. Allah is still talking about biological children. I had this verified by another person who knows the Arabic language. George
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BMZ
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Please ask that person to come and discuss here. Is he Dr. Mark Gabriel? If he is, then just ignore him and listen to me. It shows that person does not know Arabic. As far as Allah is concerned, Allah has got NO type of son at all. Allah denies having taken any son. Thus, in Islam there is NO son of God at all. Period |
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DavidC
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Personally I find God claiming Jesus as his son more convincing than Jesus making the same claim himself.
Mark 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan. Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him: Mark 1:11 And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased. |
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George
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What does ibna mean? |
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BMZ
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Ibna means son of (s/o) Examples: Jesus s/o Mary or Jesus Ibna Maryam. Now, HIs name in Arabic is Isa that can also be spelled as Esa or Eesa or Iesa or Essa. Iesa is close to Ieasus. Esa Ibna Maryam and when read in Arabic, it is Esabna Maryam. Edited by bmzsp |
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