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George 
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 Topic: They say that Allah hath begotten a sonPosted: 26 June 2006 at 10:40am |
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They are both important. God recognized Jesus as His son and Jesus is turn acknowledged that He was God's son. |
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 10:37am |
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BMZ, Ibn means son. Why did you use the word walad in your translation? Also, I had one other Arabic speaking person tell me that walad means child. I think your ship is sinking. Edited by George |
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 10:02am |
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Ibna means son of (s/o) Examples: Jesus s/o Mary or Jesus Ibna Maryam. Now, HIs name in Arabic is Isa that can also be spelled as Esa or Eesa or Iesa or Essa. Iesa is close to Ieasus. Esa Ibna Maryam and when read in Arabic, it is Esabna Maryam. Edited by bmzsp |
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 9:49am |
What does ibna mean? |
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 9:29am |
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Personally I find God claiming Jesus as his son more convincing than Jesus making the same claim himself.
Mark 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan. Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him: Mark 1:11 And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased. |
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:48am |
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Please ask that person to come and discuss here. Is he Dr. Mark Gabriel? If he is, then just ignore him and listen to me. It shows that person does not know Arabic. As far as Allah is concerned, Allah has got NO type of son at all. Allah denies having taken any son. Thus, in Islam there is NO son of God at all. Period |
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 6:43am |
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BMZ, You said: You will now realise that the Arabic word Takhazaa means has taken. The son is walad. Not so, Walad means child, not son. Allah is still talking about biological children. I had this verified by another person who knows the Arabic language. George
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 11:01am |
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George, You have not proven anything yet. Best Regards & my best to you, your family and your dear brother too. Hope he is coming along fine. BMZ |
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We haven't finished discussions yet. But if that pleases you, I will leave it at that.