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Salam,

I don't see why there's a competition to put blame on the "men" or on the "women."  We all agree, I assume, that anyone who engages in such activities -- male or female -- has strayed.

Rather than pointing blame, shouldn't we discuss more about the problem itself?  Undoubtedly, it is a widespread, and growing, problem in many countries.  Unfortunately it's a topic I don't know much about, so I don't have much to say.

And the immunity to AIDS . . . I've never heard that.  It is indeed fascinating.  Is there somewhere I can look to for more information on that?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rose Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2006 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by amanzar amanzar wrote:

Salam,

I don't see why there's a competition to put blame on the "men" or on the "women."  We all agree, I assume, that anyone who engages in such activities -- male or female -- has strayed.

Rather than pointing blame, shouldn't we discuss more about the problem itself?  Undoubtedly, it is a widespread, and growing, problem in many countries.  Unfortunately it's a topic I don't know much about, so I don't have much to say.

And the immunity to AIDS . . . I've never heard that.  It is indeed fascinating.  Is there somewhere I can look to for more information on that?

Yes amanzar, I agree with you as the women blame the men and vice versa...

But the power of Allah (swt) has given, both sexes are equal and no matter man or woman, it is Allah only, that knows the truth and therefore we have no right on judging who is wrong and who isn't.

Instead of being soo sorry for what you see is happening, go out and do something. If someone is capable, and living in a muslim country, go out and talk to some one and educate others if you have good enough information.

As a good Muslim, we are responsible for other Muslim brothers and sisters. Have meetings in Mosques and make it an every once a week project. Get the trust of others sor it could bring positive results inshallah.

Salaam

 

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Bismillah,

Have meetings in mosques?  That's a guy thing and an Arab thing.  Last time I looked, I wasn't allowed to "make meetings in mosques."

I agree with Brother Smanzoor and others who said it.  If the demand wasn't there, the supply would dry up.

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Exactly, again the men are the ones seeking sex, if they stop seeking it the prostitution industry would be gone. Same with drugs, if people wouldn't buy them, they would dissapear!! And gambling too, if no one did it casinos would be gone. It is the people who desire these haram things that fuel the market for them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ak_m_f Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2006 at 8:47pm
Originally posted by Jenni Jenni wrote:

Exactly, again the men are the ones seeking sex, if they stop seeking it the prostitution industry would be gone. Same with drugs, if people wouldn't buy them, they would dissapear!! And gambling too, if no one did it casinos would be gone. It is the people who desire these haram things that fuel the market for them.


really? then how you explain "male strippers" & "gurls nite" in he clubs?

dont know about US but here; girls hire male strippers.

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Salam,

Eliminating the demand would be spectacular, but unfortunately it's unrealistic. 

And since when is having meetings in Mosques a "guy thing" or an "arab thing"?  Mosques belong to us all . . . if anyone desires to have a meeting, as long as it's for the sake of Allah, it shouldn't be a problem.  In my community, women have many activities at the Mosque.  They are an important part of the community, and sometimes the contributions they have are just as significant, if not more, than men. 

Moreover, it's a generalization to say that it's only men who crave sex and attention.  Provocative dresscodes and behavior -- which is more common in women than men -- is a clear indication of the contrary.  But again, pointing blame gets nowhere.

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Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

sister amah, then why are you asking us men an excuse? do you think it is the men who force women into such professions? then you are mistaken. majority of them are women who force and torture other women into this profession.

 Is this your profession to study the trafficking of women and girls (and young boys too)?

sister please mind your words of what you speak ! i live in india. in india, this is very much prevalent that is HIV/AIDS and so many programs are shown on TV in india regarding creating awareness among people, and regarding various criminal acts and what are the sources of this profession. sister amah asked for an excuse from us men. she put the blame on us men first. so i am defending it. there are many sex workers in india. and they are women. now do you women have an excuse for this?

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I know it is not the issue under discussion but on MOSQUES this is an interested post which I copied from http://hotcoals.org/?p=56#comments . I just wanted to share it  with you

I think it is relevant to the utility of mosques (generally) in the Muslim world.

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In the Muslim world the Mosque is reduced to a place of worship, which is led by a professional priest. This culture is exported whereever Muslims migrated.

I have some observations below:

� Mosques are run more like an enterprise and rarely serve as a community center for the people of the locality.
� They are reduced to a mere place of worship where rituals are performed.
� The leadership of these mosques does not represent the community but generally imported from somewhere else.
� There is rarely a library, study center, recreation center or social services attached to these mosques.
� They have a negligible influence in resolving the social issues of the neighborhood.

These facts reveal that mosques do not serve as our community center. And in the absence of any other type of community center we can say that Muslims generally have a very low level of social integration; people are not connected; they do not communicate; there is no grass roots level dialogue on our social problem and our leadership is not elected rather imposed; there is no love for learning; there is no concept of common good. This represents our failure as a community.

But imagine for a moment that these mosques could be:

� A community center whose leadership is elected by the neighborhood community;
� A place where people frequently gather and offer gratitude to their creator and help each other in solving their social, political and economic problems;
� A place for learning, where kids and adults participate in learning activities;
� A platform for voluntary work.

Some suggestion on how can this be achieved:

� By promoting community leadership by the people for the people instead of professional clergy
� By educating people about benefits of community, goodness and cooperation
� By developing and executing strategies and programs which promote common good and voluntary participation

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