The Great Division.

abuayisha wrote: EternalLight111 wrote:    Murdering and torturing people for instance has consequences that cant be removed by the atonement. This would suggest one should continue with such behaviors since there is no possibility of forgiveness once having committed such crimes. Further, perpetrators of such crimes may believe they were compelled by others to murder and torture. Is there no path for repentance for such souls? http://killteammovie.com/

Discern in spirit and I would not have had to say this, The more evil one does worse it is for themselves. Though the atonement does not cover certain sins, it does allow them to be given resurrection in a time and offered another chance to be forgiven, but they will pay greatly their own debts of sin in Hell, and demons are cheater and inflict far greater pain than what a person did in life. Those of Isis when die learn the hard way for example, regretting ever being involved at all in Islam. Reason being though religions contain some truth they are also dangerous to souls, as all scriptures of everything form has also darkness and light and if a person lacks the wisdom to discern correctly it can be harmful to their soul. Hence the mess that has occured with both Christians and Muslims in various periods of time and generations, in which Isis is a good example of the current mess as they act for Devil without even realising they do so.

abuayisha wrote: EternalLight111 wrote:    Though the atonement does not cover certain sins, it does allow them to be given resurrection in a time and offered another chance to be forgiven, but they will pay greatly their own debts of sin in Hell, Will not all of mankind be resurrected? Are you saying forgiveness may come after death and upon resurrection? But only after one has been punished in Hell? These seem to be matters of the unseen (next life) and one wonders how you have knowledge of such matters. Certainly our Creator can forgive as He pleases. The American soldiers who murder Afghan citizens may have do so for reasons which you and I find unacceptable, however God may pardon in this life and the next. Our Creator does as He pleases.

All mankind will be resurrected, but those capable to depart upon the division that soon occurs in the timeline will not even need to die. But will be changed in the blink of a eye. There is some sins that the atonement couldn't cover which required consequences be paid in underworlds 'hells', this does not mean it will be forever they will be resurrected at a latter time. There is limits to what can be forgiven, murder/torture is of higher consequences. When a person dies on earth if taken to underworlds they cant yet repent until resurrected, but if a soul while on earth lives righteously repenting of all it sins, living by Charity, Hope and Faith aligning to Spirit of Christ, then Death and Hades has no claim and they will await at peace in the Paradise of Abraham's Bosom provided they have not crossed the line of murder/torture. Being in a army still makes one accountable to their actions under the eternal laws even if just following orders. A person who has murdered/tortured someone can reduce their own debts in Hell, by repentance and striving to make amends but rarely can they avoid some type of reaping as sowed. Truth is known in spirit, I am connected to what you call the Creator and it is revealed to me via the Spirit of truth. You too can discern in spirit if align to the spirit of Christ, the narrow path has been shown how to begin it in the very words I have posted on this forum. Peace hope this helps answer your questions.

EternalLight111 wrote: Religions in general contain Light and Darkness, based on a persons condition of spirit will also determine how they view with their eye what they read. In wisdom if a person lacks capability to feel words not only see and know what is right and wrong, good and evil. They should actually avoid Religions and seek God in Spirit, through prayer/fasting and righteous works. It is not necessary to be part of any religion to find God, all righteous are capable, prophets before religions got organised found God in seeking the truth in seeking righteousness, in being called of God and chosen because of goodness of their hearts. Faith, Charity and Hope are all necessary to truly find God and such is not Religion itself, but fruits of righteousness. I do not worship God as mankind does, but aid him in his work, nor do titles matter but what one see God is like that determines if you find the real One, out of the countless deceiving spirits. gratitude is all God truly wants, for mankind to become humble as little children and let him save them. The true God is a God of love of peace and perfect mercy and justice, he is not as mankind sees Him and few know Him. Any being which encourages to murder/torture others comes from Darkness and is a devil, even if people think they might be gods.

EternalLight111,
Your statement is true, and in Islam your statement is only one of the many attitudes that must be done.

Whoever does a goodness, then that goodness is for himself, and whoever does a crime, then the crime will harm himself.

EternalLight111 wrote: Truth is beyond any Religion, even if all religion's can contain parts of the truth, remember they also can contain lies. I am not part of any organised religion because it limits my relationship with God, God is beyond religions. It is best to seek God in Spirit understanding he is Good, and living your life based on what you know in your heart he would want, rather than what some texts tell people, for many have listened to words of devil in texts and gone out and done evil and horrific things, and when they died on earth they find they never knew the real God. The texts are to help those who need them, but the same things written of truth upon them can be found in spirit within our hearts, when we find the kingdom of God within.

Very few human beings who can know God even though there are many different kinds religion in this world. Is there a way to get to know God? but in Islam we have it. however, not all Muslims will be able to run it.

If there is someone whose soul is overwhelmed with evil, how will he know his Lord?