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The Bearded One
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Tim the plumber
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Quote Tim the plumber Replybullet Posted: 20 May 2017 at 1:44am
We Can’t Reduce Complexity to Absurd Simplicity…If you hate something, keep it to yourself. Talk to a therapist. Don’t fool yourself into thinking Islam is fair game – hate is hate and it’s always wrong. Equating Islam, a religion, with ISIS, a terrorist organization that targets Muslims more than any other group, and everything it does is offensive and simply, factually wrong. It’s entirely incoherent, actually. It’s as absurd as saying “the KKK is Christianity” or “the Lord’s Army is Christianity” or “colonialism is Christianity”, “slavery is Christianity”, “the holocaust is Christianity”, etc. People’s claims to a faith tradition are not sufficient grounds for validation – all claims must be verified and ISIS’s claims to Islam do not check out. Every Islamic council, jurist, judge, and scholar, and Imam I’ve ever encountered has denounced ISIS’s actions as against Islam and abominable. If you find yourself saying you “hate Islam” and/or Muslims, and trying to justify that hate by claiming Islam is a “political ideology” or “an idea” rather than a religion, not only are you dramatically and emphatically wrong on all accounts, but you’re also reconstituting the exact same arguments that were used to dehumanize and then abuse and kill other minority groups in the past. Everything you’re saying about Islam and/or Muslims, literally everything, was said about Jews and Black people in the recent past. That hate was used to fuel and justify slavery and the holocaust. Europeans also attempted a genocide on Albanian Muslims in the 90s. What do you want to happen when you say these nasty things about Islam and Muslims?

Serbs and Croatians attempted to kill Albanian and Bosnian Muslims in the 1990's and were stopped by the west especially Britian. 40,000 troops deployed.

The west's simplist idea of good vs evil is a fine principal and if we could find any group in Syria that was at all decent we would back them to the hilt and give the country to them.

The closest we have got is that the Kurds don't kill people that are not trying to kill them but if we give them the country we will make the situation much worse. You can't polish sh1t.

Which faction do you think is "good" in Syria?

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