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    Posted: 22 October 2016 at 8:59pm
Do Muslims believe that they have to earn paradise by good deeds?
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Quote asep48garut60 Replybullet Posted: 25 October 2016 at 12:38pm
Yes of course,

Doing good to God
Doing good to fellow human beings
Doing good to the natural surroundings

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Quote 2Acts Replybullet Posted: 25 October 2016 at 3:22pm
how will you know if you have ever done enough to make it?
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Quote Saved Replybullet Posted: 25 October 2016 at 5:19pm
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Yes of course,

You are saying a person can earn paradise; if that is the case, why do we need God?

According to the Scripture Allah sent before the Quran he states that salvation is a gift from God and cannot be earned or worked for, but there is a condition. That is to believe Jesus is who he and God claims Him to be.
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Quote iec786 Replybullet Posted: 25 October 2016 at 8:34pm
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Originally posted by asep48garut60

Yes of course,

You are saying a person can earn paradise; if that is the case, why do we need God?

According to the Scripture Allah sent before the Quran he states that salvation is a gift from God and cannot be earned or worked for, but there is a condition. That is to believe Jesus is who he and God claims Him to be.
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False and that statement you made is a lie.New International Version
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Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
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Quote DavidC Replybullet Posted: 26 October 2016 at 8:47am
Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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Quote Saved Replybullet Posted: 26 October 2016 at 12:26pm
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Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Not everyone who calls Him Lord will enter, but some will. IOW, calling him lord is not what the problem is. The problem is to not believe on whom God sent. Outside of Christ there is no salvation according to the gospel. It is written, that without the shedding of blood (Christ's blood)there is no remission for sin.

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Quote asep48garut60 Replybullet Posted: 26 October 2016 at 2:39pm
Dear 2Acts & Saved,

I'm just trying to keep Allah's commandments in the Quran, and who can judge what I've done is just Allah.

Allah created humans and jinn/genie is to worship Him, therefore, we need His forgiveness and compassion. Allah says that whoever the person who runs His commands, then he/she will go to heaven, and if otherwise, then he/she will go to hell.
On that basis, someone who wants to go to heaven, firstly, he/she must do Allah's commands, humans can not live as he pleases without the testimony of Allah, and I think all religions have the rules of God to be done by humans.

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