i believe Quran and Bible

Dear 786SalamKhan,
I really understand your points, all right I'll explain it in more detail:
All Muslims are commanded by God to believe in the messengers before Prophet Muhammad, including Moses, David and Jesus (as mentioned in His Word).
Likewise, faithful to their books, books that I mean here the books when they were still alive (as mentioned in His Word), not the books now.
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If you were to thoroughly delve into my comment, you would realise that the Bible and the Quran cannot both be true. You are saying that before Islam, Christianity was true and God was the Holy Trinity, but now that Islam is here, Islam is true and God is the Tawhid;
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I've realized that the Bible and the Quran are not the same (The Holy Trinity and Tawhid), but I personally say that there's a Book that's still guaranteed its truth, ie the Quran (as mentioned in His Word), this means that I do not believe in the Bible now, and I just believe in the books at the time His messengers were still alive.
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you present God as some sort of schizophrenic. Why not then join the Bahai or the Ahmadiyyah faith, do you see what my point is?
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I am not presenting God as a kind of schizophrenia, I do not have the slightest inkling as you said.
God will never make mistakes, but God has an "Iradah" (will of God), and His will is absolute, anyone can not resist His will, in the Quran there are examples of His words.
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Why not then join the Bahai or the Ahmadiyyah faith, do you see what my point is?
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I'm not going to join the Baha'i or the Ahmadiyyah faith, but I will join with Muslims that are still faithfully practice their religion as commanded by Allah (in Quran) and the Prophet Muhammad.

Regards,
Asep

Dear 786SalamKhan,

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What you must do is prove with irrefutable evidence; when, where, why and how these books were either lost or corrupted.
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Sorry, do you mean that I have to prove with irrefutable evidence for all the books or just the Quran?
I can only prove that the Quran is true and still maintained its authenticity, while on the other books I only have a little knowledge of it.

Then I am curious to ask you why you said "If you were to thoroughly Delve into my comment, you would Realise that the Bible and the Koran can not both be true." Can you explain to me if the Quran is not correct? Thanks.

Regards,
Asep

Dear 786SalamKhan,

I just highlights and to answer your opinion and question related to the Muslim faith, including:

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If you believe the Bible, you must keep in mind, you would not pick up a Quran, and interpret it however way you want.

You present God as some sort of schizophrenic. Why not then join the Bahai or the Ahmadiyyah faith, do you see what my point is?
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Is there something wrong about my responses to these points ?

In addition, I would like to response your question and ask you a question as follows:
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This question is for Muslims, coming from myself as a lapsed Muslim:
What does the claim that Jesus Christ Himself founded the Catholic Church, and gave Her divine authority to teach, mean to you?
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1. I can't explain your question about "What does the claim that Jesus Christ Himself founded the Catholic Church, and the Gave Her divine authority to teach, mean to you?", Because I do not follow all non-muslim worship.
2. If you are a lapsed Muslim, do you believe in the Quran ?

Thank you.

Regards,
Asep


Edited by asep48garut60 - 09 October 2016 at 6:09pm

786SalamKhan wrote: asep48garut60 wrote: Dear 786SalamKhan, ------------------------------- What you must do is prove with irrefutable evidence; when, where, why and how these books were either lost or corrupted. ------------------------------- Sorry, do you mean that I have to prove with irrefutable evidence for all the books or just the Quran? I can only prove that the Quran is true and still maintained its authenticity, while on the other books I only have a little knowledge of it. Then I am curious to ask you why you said "If you were to thoroughly Delve into my comment, you would Realise that the Bible and the Koran can not both be true." Can you explain to me if the Quran is not correct? Thanks. Regards, Asep It seems you are still refusing to delve into my first post. Should I bother carrying on this conversation? There are irreconcilable differences between the Bible and the Quran; the Bible, does teach what Traditional Christians believe, as my first post covers. The Bible is either true, or the Quran is true, both cannot be true at the same time. If the Bible is true, then anything contrary to the truth is by that very fact, false. Muslims know this, and this is why they resort to claiming that the Bible is corrupted. Again, an incredible claim to make; they must prove with irrefutable evidence, when, where, how and why the Bible got corrupted. And even if they somehow manage to do so, the records of the "people of the book" being corrupted creates problems for the claim of Muhammad's prophethood being a continuation of the Abrahamic tradition.

From my external, athiest and experienced with people ripping me off the claim that any such holy book is not corrupted is the hard part to accept.

Can you show that any book has any more credibility than the others which we agree are wrong?