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Yusuf.
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I don't think you DO understand. You're assuming Guilt By Association (here we call that McCarthyism). HNN is a history site, and the article I cited summarizes (pretty fairly I think) some of what we know about the subject and offers a conclusion. COMMENT: No, it's not guilt by association on my part. My entire gist is that a Muslim would see pipes' name and discount the site's credibility. ******************** would you try to persuade a jewish audience by citing an article that lists louis farrakhan as one of its featured links? That's a straw horse. But, as a matter of fact, I might, if I thought the featured article was fair and truthful. Why not? And I can't condemn Farakhan himself entirely either: the man is deeper than his featured animosities and the media caricature. COMMENT: I agree with your final statement. But it's no straw horse; It's a pretty fair comparison and reflection of what i see on many websites. I prefaced my statement by saying "would you try to persuade Jewish audience" by citing him. You yourself might feel, and justifiably so, that the information you presented was convincing, but a Jewish person would, at a visceral level, reject the information. This might not be fair, but it is a fact. Heck, articles I have used on some political sites are condemned out of hand by conservatives because they come from that virulently anti-american, communist newspaper the Washington Post! So, if your goal is to convince them, you would not use the information from that site. ************************** the fact is the entire Islamic world considers daniel pipes one of its main enemies. COMMENT: Well, that's fine. I see your points and hope you understand my perspective. As always, I find myself unable to clearly express what i am really trying to say. Edited by Yusuf. |
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fezziwig
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I don't think you DO understand. You're assuming Guilt By
Association (here we call that McCarthyism). HNN is a history site, and
the article I cited summarizes (pretty fairly I think) some of what we
know about the subject and offers a conclusion.
That's a straw horse. But, as a matter of fact, I might, if I
thought the featured article was fair and truthful. Why not? And I
can't condemn Farakhan himself entirely either: the man is deeper than
his featured animosities and the media caricature.
I know that, and I think that it is a mistake to turn your back on an enemy. Better to confront and refute, especially if they are strong. One can ignore small whiny enemies, but Big Guys have to be confronted (and in spare time you can confront the little ones). As a parallel, the RightBlogs consider Juan Cole their enemy (sometimes there are long learned threads running to hundreds of entries excoriating Cole and challenging his articles, cf. Belmont Club), but they read him anyway (then a vein pops out on the forehead, the face turns red and they start hyperventilating). And anyway, I wasn't trying to persuade Rehmat of anything, I just thought he ought to use better data. Nothing negates ones arguments faster than bad premises, and throwing around bad numbers and invalid premises brands one as a lightweight, easily ignored. F |
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Rehmat
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No that's another example of your acute ignorance. And you know what - The two-hours I spent each day at a high school - They call me Volunteer teacher. Don't worry - ignorance is not your monopoly - some Muslims have too. |
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Angel
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Rehmet, that's funny, in another thread you said you are a volunteer and not for someone's livelihood |
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Thank you. It is also worth while to add that these are the same people who renamed the blacks from their original names to the name "negro"; meaning, a dead thing; after the etimological root word "necro". This was done during the 64 hidden years of history that it took to make the black slaves into the people we see today. This history was hidden because they never want anyone to know what they really did to the blacks. It is more revolting than anything we have seen of their society today. It is a recreation of the Masonic ritual of Hiram Abiff. Also, the name African comes from Leo Africanus of Greece. He was a white man who "discovered" and named Africa after himself. Lastly, according to the scriptures of the Torah, the "Israelites" name was changed to Israel after Yacub the Surrplanter wrestled with the Angel of the Lord "Jibril", all night long. After throwing his thighbone out of place, Yacub's name became Israel. This is interesting in light of our earlier discussion on Malcolm X, who said that their real name came from their father Yacub and they surrplanted the birthright of the true children of Israel to stand in their place and reap the benefits from Allah. Edited by blond |
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Rehmat
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And how they feel about the same people - The Black? Let us hear from horse's mouth: Philadelphia Jewish weekly The Jewish Record of January 23, 1863: |
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Good post Rehmat. I would like to add that the Zionists have long funded both sides of every issue in order to exorcise complete control of the issues. Most of the time, their involvement is a closely guarded secret. This is how they can cause the "leaders" of most movements to capitulate, whenever they are displeased with them. They can call them to apologize for things that they have not even done-but were done by others. You can tell the pattern of usage because it is their practice to use a spokesman from the ethnic group they are targeting. I.e... Condi Rice and Colon Powell speak against Sudan; General Adu Zaid speaks for Iraq policy, etc... Malcolm X beat up on Zionists and publiclly named their involvement in organizations. He began teaching from the "Protocols" during his last days in the NOI. He was successful in scaring the wrong people and it triggered a response (assassination). His teacher taught him who these people were/are. But his teacher dealt with these people more masterfully, and as a result, they were not able to assassinate him. In the "big picture", this is a fight between Allah and the devil. Malcolm X called them the devil and he was correct. When devil is unveiled, he plays to keep. Edited by blond |
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While you�re on this Black subject � It may come as a surprise to you that most of the so-called �Balck or Women Rights organizations are controlled by the same people, who could top among the most racist White folks. In 1909, when four Jews were among the sixty multiracial signers of the Call to National Action resulted in creation of the NAACP, the Yiddish newspapers on New York's Lower East Side were already equating lynchings of African Americans in the South with pogroms against Jews in Russia. During the next half century, organizational bonds and political cooperation between African American and American Jewish communities gradually matured. The culmination in 1964 was Mississippi Freedom Summer when over half of the white students who journeyed south to fight for black voting rights are estimated to have been Jewish. Those drawn to the civil rights movement gave diverse reasons, and selfless idealism on behalf of others coexisted with enlightened self-interest in uprooting prejudices that also victimized Jews. Brother Shahbazz was never a �Hoese slave� � as Malcolm X or otherwise. It was Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. � And that�s his death anniversary is a �National Holiday� in the US. However, both fell to the guns hired by FBI. Martin Luther King, Jr., from a 1965 interview, in A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings (1986): "How could there be anti-Semitism among Negroes when our Jewish friends have demonstrated their commitment to the principle of tolerance and brotherhood not only in the form of sizable contributions, but in many other tangible ways, and often at great personal sacrifice. Can we ever express our appreciation to the rabbis who chose to give moral witness with us in St. Augustine during our recent protest against segregation in that unhappy city? Need I remind anyone of the awful beating suffered by Rabbi Arthur Lelyveld of Cleveland when he joined the civil rights workers there in Hattiesburg, Mississippi? And who can ever forget the sacrifice of two Jewish lives, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner, in the swamps of Mississippi? It would be impossible to record the contribution that the Jewish people have made toward the Negro's struggle for freedom--it has been so great." So, who was the House Slave? |
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