The Earth is 6,000 years old

Abu Loren wrote: Matt Browne wrote: I'm surprised you're repeating this kind of nonsense promoted by Amercian born-again Christians. I don't see any contradiction between a 4,56 billion year old Earth and theism. Saying the Earth is 6000 years old is like saying the moon is made of green cheese. It is nonsense to a person who is brought up in the pseudo Science world without having spirituality. The contradiction is that the idea of a 4.5 billions years old Earth is promoted by satan worshipping scientists without any actual proof. Carbon dating is just conjucture and a need to push their ajenda as science. There is NO way that anybosy could date the age of the Earth. If a scientist in a white coat told you that the Moon is made of green cheese then you would believe it. That's the difference between me and you.

Mentioning carbon dating in this context shows a lack of knowledge in this matter. The topic is the age of the Earth, not the age of a preserved iceman eating plants a couple of thousand years ago containing C-14 atoms. Perhaps you've never heard of elements such as argon and lead and where they come from.


Edited by Matt Browne - 24 January 2016 at 1:05am

" By the way all the 'space faring' nations are in on the lie...."

And not one journalist or whistle-blower to make their name by breaking the story?

Everything pictured as being from the Hubble telescope, invented?
Yachts in round the world races having to average something like 35 knots?
Cape Horn to Western Australia is such a trek on a flat "map".


"You see, you are believing what the science men tell you blindly without even thinking about it."
Err, actually no. I'm used to checking the working on proposed ideas, and enjoy seeing how these rose and fell with argument and evidence through history.

"youtube and search for 'the sun's trajectory over the flat earth"
I did. I saw several I have rarely seen anything more hilarious, as long as no-one takes them seriously. Both major and blatant errors abound... talk about "believing blindly without thinking about it!"
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY0xhUOL3vM"
Spot at least three fatal problems with the text, the animation or conflict between them.
You'd have to be naively believing not to see them.


Do you really believe this flat earth idea?
I credit you with more intelligence than that, so lean towards the likelihood of you playing a game.
I call deliberate Poe.

Chris.

Matt Browne wrote: Mentioning carbon dating in this context shows a lack of knowledge in this matter. The topic is the age of the Earth, not the age of a preserved iceman eating plants a couple of thousand years ago containing C-14 atoms. Perhaps you've never heard of elements such as argon and lead and where they come from.

Carbon dating doesn't work. Full Stop. Period.

Abu Loren wrote: A spinning globe Earth is a satanic lie! It doesn't make any sense at all. The Earth does NOT spin 1,000+ miles.

Rarely have I seen such a closed, fixed, position so firmly held on no solid ground at all.

No Satan required at all

You who rail at people believing without thought, scepticism or fair, questioning doubt; have you brought thought, scepticism or fair, questioning doubt against the flat earth or young earth models of earth and the solar system, or the cosmos as a whole?

Have you seen how many wild assumptions and extra entities have to be brought into play (or ignored!) to make these young or flat perspectives even seem to work?

I've twice been round the world. Looking at a flat map the air-flight leg times don't match by such a large degree that I don't need close detail
I've been to Australia twice.
THE STARS ARE WRONG.
(That's to a northern hemisphere dweller, on a spheroidal earth.)
On a flat earth the stars should look pretty much the same, looking up from Australia or the UK, because that's looking in almost the same direction. Think about it for ten seconds.

It may be that a *absolutely* literal reading of terms seems to imply a flat earth, but this requires a ruling brought in from outside as far as I can tell.
No metaphors, similes or pictorial language anywhere in the Qur'an?   I'd be very surprised.

But the world is round, and it spins, and gravity works.
(On a flat earth how do you get much more variation in day length through the year as you get near the North pole? The effect is clearly recorded in discussion on its effects on Ramadan at such latitudes.)

Edited by Emettman - 27 January 2016 at 4:06am