The Amazing Accomplishments of Muslim Scientists

Why do you call these scientists "Muslim Scientists" ?

When you speak of Newton do you say "Christian scientist" ?
When you talk about Einstein do you say "Agnostic Scientist" ?
And mentioning Dirac: "Atheist Scientist" ?

Do you ? Airmano

Edited by airmano - 12 December 2015 at 11:28am

Ahmad: Good point. However, see if this kind of referral is encouraging them to be like them and leave the orthodoxy of dogmatic views about religion.

I don't think so. This rather pesky insisting on "Muslim Scientists" is rather to hide the fact that there haven't been any (well, almost) for centuries. I guess it is rather the expression of an inferiority complex.

What do you say when it is asked if the globe is better off with more 'Muslim' scientists than others?

What I like about science is that there is no Christian, Jewish or Muslim science (even if some nutters in your area try to establish "Muslim science"). To your question: I guess it would, but may be for different reasons than you think. I am convinced that if there were more Muslim scientists, this "Scientific Miracles in the Quran" thing would quickly come to an end. I realize that this will be painful because it will take away quite a bit from the Muslim self-understanding but in the long run there is no way around it. At the same time it would be beneficial to the world because it would finally stop the extremists by making clear that the Quran can only be read as allegorical to be in line with modern knowledge. And this (and only this) will give it the necessary flexibility to adapt to the future.


Airmano

Ps: A good starter is this guy whereas this article is for the advanced reader.

Edited by airmano - 02 February 2016 at 12:15pm

Ahmad: If you can call people from 'Muslim countries', why can't you also call them 'Muslim Scientists'?

When you call persons "people from 'Muslim countries" you insinuate that there is a link between their cultural/religious background and (typically) their behaviour or habits.

Calling the guy that built the bridge nearby: "black haired Engineer" is a construction you'd use only in very specific cases, since the colour of his hair got nothing to do with the work he did.

Braking this 'rule' in a persistent way makes me think that there is another motivation than "just" informing me about his shoe size.

To finish: If from now on - besides the shoe size- we [all] started to add the individual creed to each scientists name, the result would in any case not be very flattering for Islam anyway.

So, rather don't do it!

Airmano

Edited by airmano - 08 February 2016 at 8:35am

Ahmad: Similarly, if you think all scientists were/are atheist...

I don't.
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More so, Albert Einstein can't be considered as one that you think he was.

I guess you try to tell me that you don't consider him the way I do ? Not a problem.
In any case: Difficult to ask him now, but may be you should read his letter.

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If it personally hurts you, then sure we should avoid it. I agree.

Hurting is not the right term. It is as if I called Mohamed a "sect leader".
Historically undoubtedly true, but not adequate, at least to your understanding.


Airmano

Edited by airmano - 15 February 2016 at 2:02pm