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abuayisha
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I think what makes for good discussion is expressing views frankly and openly, and Islamicity is extremely liberal in that respect, as you well know. But let's keep the discussion respectful. As I mentioned before, theology by its very nature calls for faith and belief, and if you don't believe Moses literally parted the Red Sea, this is your choice. What point is there in becoming belligerent in your rejection, moreover to even articulate that you have somehow been harmed by such beliefs!? I personally feel it's entirely disingenuous to suggest political correctness or frank and open discussion is what's at play here, but just trolling an Islamic discussion board. I would hope that the moderators take note of such behavior as it is clearing in violation of the rules for discussion.
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Tim the plumber
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The lives of many people have been and are beeing harmed by the demands that religious people put on others. This, on this forum, is the demand that we respect your beliefs to the point of not saying what we wish to and not challenging your professed views that the moon has split in two and then got better. To ever greater demands backed by ever greater pressure, threats and violence in the rest of the world. That is the point of this thread. |
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abuayisha
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Tim perhaps you haven't noticed that theology has long since ceased having significant political power in the world. When it comes to harm and pressure look no further than secular capitals of the world. Is it too much to "demand" civil discourse? |
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Tim the plumber
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What is civil and what is not is different to all of us. Civility in Saudi Arabia demands that female politicians cannot directly talk to male citizens. Civility in the rest of the world demands that we explain to the Saudis that this is very wrong. Totally uncivil. They don't like people telling them that and demand civility. |
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Ron Webb
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I'm not sure what you find disrespectful or in violation of the rules here. Is it the word "nonsense" that you find objectionable, or the claim that literalism poses a "serious threat"? Or something else that I'm missing? |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Caringheart
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Greetings Tim the plumber, I would ask; Where's the proof for your statements? Undoubtedly though, you believe your statements to be true. Peace and blessings to you, Caringheart |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Caringheart
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I agree with both these statements by Matt. Edited by Caringheart - 16 December 2015 at 9:05pm |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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abuayisha
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I'll let the moderators decide what is civil on this discussion board. I can only suggest that when it comes to religious observances that the other have respect. What you have said about Saudi is not only incorrect, but even if it were, one would think "the rest of the world" would have far greater priorities for their demands. Further, I think one of the problems with secularism is that one only needs to consult ones own mind for what civility is or isn't. Those who have a set of morals and values stemming from theology have a path (sharia) to walk upon, or reference. |
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