The EARTH is a CUBE!

Ron Webb wrote: There are 354 days between the beginning of Ramadan 2014 (June 29) and Ramadan 2015 (June 18).� So were six months with 29 days, and six with 30 days in that period.From there till the next Ramadan in 2016 (June 7) will contain five months with 29 days and seven months with 30 days.There is no consistency at all.

The problem arises only when we use the Gregorian Calendar otherwise it's pretty consistent.

Ron Webb wrote: Your God seems like a bully and a tyrant.� Obedience I can understand, but how could you love someone who uses intimidation and threats to get his way?

It's His prerogative being the Creator. If you had real faith then you will understand that He is just warning you of the consequences of not following His commands. He sends His messengers and prophets as bringers of glad tiding and warners. You choose if you want the good news or the bad.

Ron Webb wrote: Godless, for sure.� But not faithless -- I have faith in humanity.� And heartless??� That's just insulting.

Ronnie boy one needs a clean and sound heart to have faith.

PICKTHALL
Save him who bringeth unto Allah a whole heart.

MUHSIN KHAN
Except him who brings to Allah a clean heart [clean from Shirk (polytheism) and Nifaq (hypocrisy)].

YUSUF ALI
"But only he (will prosper) that brings to Allah a sound heart;
26:89

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
When he came to his Lord with a sound heart

DR. GHALI
As he came to his Lord with a sound heart,

SHAKIR
When he came to his Lord with a free heart,
37:84

PICKTHALL
Who feareth the Beneficent in secret and cometh with a contrite heart.

YUSUF ALI
"Who feared (Allah) Most Gracious Unseen, and brought a heart turned in devotion (to Him):

DR. GHALI
Who is apprehensive of The All-Merciful in the Unseen and comes with a penitent heart.
50:33

MUHSIN KHAN
Verily, therein is indeed a reminder for him who has a heart or gives ear while he is heedful.

PICKTHALL
Lo! therein verily is a reminder for him who hath a heart, or giveth ear with full intelligence.

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Indeed in that is a reminder for whoever has a heart or who listens while he is present [in mind].
50:37

Ron Webb wrote: You do.� You need evidence that your faith is the correct one.

I have evidence that my faith is the correct one otherwise I will be doing what you are doing. My proof? It's when I look around I see the mountains, the trees, the sky, the sun, moon and stars etc etc etc.

Ron Webb wrote: Of course I can.� That's why I'm not a Muslim. [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="middle" />

Isn't it really amazing? You gained ALL this knowledge and yet you can't see THE TRUTH. Yes truly amazing. :)

Ron Webb wrote: So how do these satellites stay up there for years and years?� Whatever the technology, it would be worth billions/trillions to anyone who sold it to the private sector.� Why doesn't anyone break the conspiracy and become a billionaire?� Apparently you have greater faith in humanity than I do. [IMG]smileys/smiley36.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="LOL" />

That's just it satellites do not stay up in space. It's just another illusion. Mobile/cell phones work by shortwave radio, hence the towers going up all over the place.

Ron Webb wrote: Your ignorant opinion is noted, and valued accordingly. [IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" align="middle" />

Let's just say that your scientific world is brought down to earth by somebody proving that the earth is flat. How would that make you feel? Astronomy, quantum physics etc would be redundant. So will you be.

Abu Loren wrote: I have evidence that my faith is the correct one otherwise I will be doing what you are doing. My proof? It's when I look around I see the mountains, the trees, the sky, the sun, moon and stars etc etc etc.

I thought you had decieded that this world was an illusion.

If you are interested in the real world then you will need to start from it rather than starting from your own delusions and making the world fit them.

I stumbled over this sentence:

The closer we get to the poles, the longer our days or nights become. They can eventually extend for up to several months each, making this verse, the fourth Pillar of Islam, impossible to practice without starving yourself to death. Again, this problem would not exist on a flat earth model.

No surprise that Abul moved closer to the equator.
It's all about keeping the suffering during Ramadan under control.

Smart !

Airmano

Edited by airmano - 01 October 2015 at 12:43pm

Ron Webb wrote: Sounds a lot like the Taliban to me.

It would to you because you know absolutely nothing though you've been learning about Islam. This is because there is a veil over your heart, you will not understand.

There is no compulsion in religion and any Muslim can denounce his faith any time he wants to and become like you, happy in this world. It takes dedication, obedience and a heck of a lot of patience to be Muslim. It is NOT for everybody.

Ron Webb wrote: As I keep telling you, it's not a choice.� Could you choose not to believe?

Of course you can. That's what you are doing. You are denying all that you've learned. The TRUTH from your Lord is simply beautiful.

Ron Webb wrote: The nice thing about sitting on the fence is that you have a clear view of both sides and can maintain a balanced perspective.� That's why science works, and why religion does not.

No one MUST choose sides. You have to weigh up the pro's and con's of being a Muslim of not being a Muslim. Do you like what satan offers you or what your Creator offers you?