The EARTH is a CUBE!

Ron Webb wrote: Just three days ago you were telling me that the earth was flat.  Suddenly now it's a cube???  Funny, I hardly even felt the tremor.

Edited by Abu Loren - 23 September 2015 at 1:03am

Abul: wHAT WAS THE NAME OF ABRAHAM'S (ALAYHI SLAAM) FATHER?

It doesn't matter.
Abraham in his described form almost certainly never existed. I guess he was an historical person that was given cult-status afterwards.
Once this is done you have all sorts of legends and stories knitted around such a figure, especially when all opposing voices have been silenced.
If you want to follow such a process in real time just have a look at Kim Il Sung.

Be that as it may, there are no known traces of him: No coins, no buildings (forget the Kaaba in this context), no independent observations, no inscription.

Nothing but copy and paste.

So if the biblical Abraham himself didn't exist, why should I bother about his alleged parents ?


Airmano

Edited by airmano - 25 September 2015 at 4:37am

Ron Webb wrote: Hi Abu Loren,I feel like I should respond, but I really don't know what to say.� I gather from the ALL CAPS post that you are upset, and I'm sorry if we have caused this.�

LOL I don't get angry on the internet, I don't why I used caps as i also know that people use caps to show anger.

I get frustrated with people who don't understand, I mean you give them the answer but they keep coming back with the same questions and argue with you when you give them evidence contrary to what they are saying.

Ron Webb wrote: But really, after weeks of trying to convince me that the earth is flat you suddenly come up with the idea that it is a cube -- and then try to pretend that it's the same thing -- what kind of reaction were you expecting?

Yes I know I did not express it very clearly. The flat earth map is a good guidance but now I believe the earth is the shape of the Ka'baa so that map should be re-drawn (by me?) to be a square or a rectangle.

Ron Webb wrote: The map of the flat earth that you showed me in the previous discussion ("The Moon, Part 2") is circular.� I don't see how it can be reconciled with the surface of a cube, which would be a square.� If it is a square, where are the corners, and why has no one ever seen them?

I used the square flat earth map at the time that I believed it to be circular, but only in the last couple of days that I am certain that the earth is flat but square.
It was only watching https://youtu.be/LMajARRyeDc that I became convinced of this fact. If you look at the end of the video you will see that people are either doing Hajj and they are walking counter-clockwise and it looks like the stars are going around the earth.

Ron Webb wrote: These are certainly not scientific ideas, nor are they Islamic as far as I know.� Where are you getting this stuff, and why do you believe it? [IMG]smileys/smiley5.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Confused" />Ron

Of course people can argue that my idea is completely crazy, that is their right. But I want somebody to challenge me in a religious way, meaning that to me it looks blatantly obvious that the Ka'baa is a symbol from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala.

Abu Loren wrote: It was only watching https://youtu.be/LMajARRyeDc that I became convinced of this fact. If you look at the end of the video you will see that people are either doing Hajj and they are walking counter-clockwise and it looks like the stars are going around the earth.

So you just made it up yourself.  Or are you saying that Allah gave you this knowledge, i.e. that you are a prophet?

Of course people can argue that my idea is completely crazy, that is their right. But I want somebody to challenge me in a religious way, meaning that to me it looks blatantly obvious that the Ka'baa is a symbol from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala.

How can somebody challenge you "in a religious way" unless this is a religious idea?  And if it is a religious idea, then it is clearly an innovation (bid'ah).

Abu Loren wrote: What was the name of the father of Abraham (Alayhi salaam)?

It takes about five seconds to Google "father of Abraham" and get the answer: according to the Bible, Terah; according to the Quran, Azar.  So what is our point?