War on Islam Not ISIS

Dear i.dawa

I see the appeal of containing the ISIS situation within the Islamic community, but i have concerns about Muslims dealing with ISIS and other Muslims according to the scripture. So many people of the world are active practitioners of the Islamic faith and there are so many different ideas about different parts of scripture. I do not believe that its fair to judge someone according to a religious text that people can interpret so many different ways. During the crusades CHristians believed that waging wars against the Islamic faith was justified because they twisted their scriture so that it molded to their objectives. I feel that the same would most likely happen in your scenario as well.

And an aside, I do not feel that the majority of the western world or the powers that control it want to targert Muslims. Of course their are people that are racist towards Muslims and people from the middle east as a whole, but I believe that the root of this problem comes from the fear that many westerners feel.

Thanks for reading, I look forward to your response.

Nausheen wrote: If anyone is offended by the comments of non-muslims here, I ask you, are you not offended by the actions of Abu Bakr al Baghdadhi and his allies? If not, you are giving out a very wrong message to the world - a message which was never a part of mission or message from your own messenger. Islam teaches us to be honest, and in all honesty ISIS is a monster. And if you say that winning a war against them and annihilating them is annihilating islam then in reality you are saying that Abu Bakr is representing islam. Accept the truth, he has been using the name of islam, and is doing the biggest disservice to this religion anyone has done in our times. All those who are supporting them are either confused about them or they are like them. In either case, they are on the wrong path. (...)

Nausheen, how do you explain the fact that the Godly laws of Saudi-Arabia and the Godly laws of the Islamic State of ISIS are almost identical? They both are representing Islam using a very traditional interpretation of the holy texts.

Yet almost all Muslims want to travel to Saudi-Arabia, a country so horrible, it's often hard to find words for it. As long as most Muslims feel fine with Saudi-Arabia, they feel fine with ISIS. And many Muslims rather show solidarity with criminal Muslims like in parts of Brussels, than telling Belgian disbelievers i.e. the police, fellow Muslims are hiding out there for months.

It's not enough to distance oneself from violence. 21st century Islam must be completely different from 7th century Islam. The entire Islam needs new interpretations and drastic reforms. As long as Muslims reject this very idea, there won't be peace on Earth. Christian churches will keep being burned. Christians will keep being called disbelievers. Muslim women will inherit half. Raped Muslim women will need several male witnesses to avoid being stoned to death. And so on.

And I posted this several times because I feel it's so crucial: I really do recommend not using the word Islamophobia. It is scientific/medical nonsense. Very real is racism and outgroup hatred. This we have to eradicate. Islam and many Islamic traditions contain some fundamental flaws which need to be torn out for good, because they don't work in the 21st century. Islam can be given a modern interpretation that followers of other religions and atheists can feel totally comfortable with. The first important step: cancel the word unbeliever. The second important step: Islam feels true for Muslims, but it cannot claim absolute truth.




Edited by Matt Browne - 28 March 2016 at 3:08am

marcello wrote: The concept of a "creator" is a fantasy created by the ignorant who had (and have) little understanding of physics and cosmology.

Not true. Those who claim this have little understanding.

As understanding of physics has advanced, religiosity has retreated. That is why fundamentalists, of all faiths, strive to ensure that their progeny is uneducated. We see this, for example, among the Hasidic Jews, the Amish, and the Taliban (although it seems that only the fundamentalist Muslims delight in blowing up schools).

?? Since we have seen weddings, funerals, and all sorts of things blown up by others like the US, your point seems moot.

Caringheart wrote: marcello wrote: The concept of a "creator" is a fantasy created by the ignorant who had (and have) little understanding of physics and cosmology. Greetings marcello, Just where do you think the laws of physics come from?  There has to be a Creator behind the design... One who designed the laws. asalaam and blessings, Caringheart

Why does there have to be anything at all you could ever understand?

Why do you think that thing would create so much in the universe if it was ever going to care at all about a tiny speck like the Milky Way galaxy?

Why would it sit around doing nothing for 13+ billion years before getting all excited about a tiny bit of the earth and supposedly talking to a very few people there?

Why then go away again?