ISIS: How can Muslim Religious Leaders Stop It |
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Caringheart
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The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms�which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning, Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be. seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. - St. Thomas Aquinas It is easy to sway a people who listen and do not read or exercise their own powers of mind. Edited by Caringheart - 19 September 2014 at 12:42pm |
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Abu Loren
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Is education important? That is open to debate. For true believers it is more important towards working to earn the right to live forever with the Creator than earning a phd. |
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Ron Webb
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Where did you get those numbers, marcello? |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Ron Webb
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If I were a Muslim I would shave off the beard and wear "normal" modern clothing. Muhammad only commanded his followers to have a beard in order to distinguish them from the polytheists at the time. That is no longer an issue; whereas these days it is far more important for Muslims to distinguish themselves from the terrorists. People see Middle Eastern men with beards and traditional Islamic attire and they think "terrorist". I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. |
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marcello
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It is no coincidence that the average educational level is astonishingly low for those who find the Quran to be "proof positive". As of just a few years ago: "Fifty-seven Muslim majority countries have an average of ten universities each for a total of less than 600 universities for 1.4 billion people; India has 8,407 universities, the U.S. has 5,758. . . . Of the 1.4 billion Muslims, 800 million are illiterate (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read)." |
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marcello
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A "religion" predicated on the hateful, violent, intolerant garbage strewn throughout the Quran can hardly be called "beautiful". It ironic that this so-called "beautiful" religion incites so many of its adherents to call each other "un-Islamic" and then persecute and murder each other on that basis. The U.S. and its Western allies should clear out of the Middle East and let the Sunnis and Shiites fight it out to determine who the "true" Muslims are.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, which is sorely lacking for "Allah", "hell", and "paradise". There is far more evidence for the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the Tooth Fairy than there is for "Allah". |
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Abu Loren
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I agree. There are some twisted people about calling themselves Muslims when they are not. Wearing beards and 'Muslim attire' does not make one a Muslim. They will be judged as will you and I. These people have hijacked the beautiful religion of Islam and the world now thinks they are the true Muslims. However, if put in perspective they are only about ten thousand or so out of over a billion. It's a real shame that people generally and you in particular do not look into the real Islam which is the only religion acceptable to Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala.
Believe me Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala hell and paradise really do exist. Of course I can't prove it. One has to believe. It's all about faith. I suppose if I told you that the Qur'an is proof positive of the existence of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala you wouldn't believe me would you? |
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marcello
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What is sad that there are so many evil people in the world who take comfort in those verses and use them as justification for the murder of those who do not believe in that garbage.
I'll take my chances, since neither you (nor anyone else) can demonstrate that your Allah or your hell (or your paradise) even exist. If your beliefs in the existence of these magical, invisible entities give you comfort, so be it. But unfortunately a large number of your co-religionists continue to use those beliefs to persecute those who don't share such fantasies. Edited by marcello - 18 September 2014 at 7:36pm |
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