16:69

Salaam Alaikum.

NABA wrote: but the point is that ur comments prove u R silly

I am not the one making false accusations against you, it is the other way around.

NABA wrote: ,at some time u believe God is one,then u believe in concept of trinity,

Trinity = one God existing as three persons. That you see a contradiction between God being one and God being a Trinity shows that you misunderstand what the Trinity is.

NABA wrote: then u call human beings as eternal,yet u believe in life and death,

Does not the Quran teach that we will live eternally after death... either in Paradise or Hell?

NABA wrote: people with double meaning statements are not wise like u

Neither of the statements I said are contradictory. It is you who misunderstands Christian teachings.

NABA wrote:  the verse u quoted ends with people who give thought means we have to enquire before doing anything.

So in other words, if God tells you that honey contains healing, instead of believing Him, you need to inquire first, right?

NABA wrote: i believe I m not eternal because Allah says in Qur'an in ch 3 v 185-every living being will taste death.

Yes, we will all taste death. But after we die, we enter into new life, which will last forever. So we do live eternally.


By the way, you still have not answered my question. Why did God according to the Quran tell the bees to eat from all kinds of fruit? Was He unaware that some fruit bees cannot get to, and others kill them?

I answer all your questions. Why do you not do the same to mine?


Edited by TG12345 - 31 August 2013 at 9:57pm

NABA wrote: I had already given U reply but U R not satisfied as usual.

Salaam Alaikum, NABA.

Have you actually read this post? If you did, you would have noticed that I was pointing out another fact.

In the post you responded to (or tried to), I brought up the fact that honey can kill people, despite the Quran's author stating that it contains healing.
http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25890&PN=8

In this post, I brought up the fact that there are fruit that are deadly and inaccessible to bees, despite the Quran's author telling bees to "eat from all the fruit".

Same verse, different mistake.

Please take the time to read what I have actually written, before accusing me of being "not satisfied as usual". It will make you look less silly.

All praise and honour be to God- the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


Edited by TG12345 - 30 August 2013 at 8:12am

Salaam Alaikum.

Chapter 16 of the Quran, verses 68 and 69, describes the honeybee.

16:68,69

And your Lord inspired to the bee, "Take for yourself among the mountains, houses, and among the trees and [in] that which they construct.
Then eat from all the fruits and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [for you]." There emerges from their bellies a drink, varying in colors, in which there is healing for people. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought.

Was the author of the Quran aware that bees do not and cannot eat from all the fruits?


For example, the Yucca is a fruit producing plant that only a certain type of moth is able to pollinate. Bees, wasps, bumblebees, other insects and animals are incapable of pollinating it. Only the Yucca moth can.

The female moth, after mating, deposits her eggs in the ovary at the base of the flower. Then she collects a ball of pollen from other flowers and places this pollen ball in a special depression in the stigma of the flower, to ensure that the flower is fertilised (image 3). This pollination system is so precise that only yucca moths can pollinate these plants. Yuccas grown in regions where the yucca moth is absent will never produce seeds unless the plants are hand-pollinated. Moreover, there is growing evidence that the many different Yucca species are pollinated by different yucca moths, specialised for the plant species.

http://archive.bio.ed.ac.uk/jdeacon/desertecology/yuccas.htm

Why would the Quran's author tell bees from all the fruit, when there are some fruit that bees cannot even get to?

Also, some plants fruit producing plants, like the California Buckeye, kill honey bees by poisoning them.


http://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/cs_aeca.pdf


According to the Quran, God has told the honey bee to eat of all the fruit. Yet there are some fruit that poison bees, and others that they simply cannot get to.

How could God have told the bee to eat of all the fruits, given the inaccesibility and outright poison to bees, for some of them?