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NABA wrote: There are many muslims who say that they don't believe in hadeeth, by saying this they themselves are in a problem, because the way we offer salaah was the prophet used to, u didn't take my point there are many individuals who quote by themselves in the name of prophet so the role of ilamas or educated scholars here take place, because hadeeths were written 300 yrs after death of prophet, Allah says always approach the one who has more knowledge in ch 16 v 43, that's y I always listen to those who have learnt a lot about Quran and hadeeth.

Salaam Alaikum.

So what do the ulamas say about the hadiths in Bukhari and Muslim? I heard Muslims say that they are the authentic words of Muhammad, unlike other collections. What do you say to that?

PS Just so you know, I replied to you on the thread "Error in Quran and Hadiths about Thamud" 2 days ago, but the moderators have not posted it yet.

NABA wrote: as I said I prefer not to comment on this because I used to hear to imams who throughout their life are involved in Islamic activities,I m a medico so after the Asir Salaah I used to hear hadeeth from maulanas,but I daily read Qur'an which is the commandment of Allah and prophet.

So in other words, are you saying you don't know what Muhammad said and what he didn't say? The Quran clearly tells you to obey him, as well as God. How can you obey Muhammad if you don't even know what he said or didn't say?

NABA wrote: there R some so called peers who claim themselves to b close to god and by name of prophet they say numerous FALSE things,that's y i always hear hadeeths from maulana(those who recite Qur'an by heart),Some of Muslim scholars have recieved degrees in which they closely study the life of prophet,Allah says always approach the one who has more knowledge in ch 16 v 43.For eg prophet Muhammad(pbuh) says that if after every prescribed prayer if we praise Allah then our sins will b forgiven,there R several teachings that i can quote.

Salaam Alaikum. Thank you for the answer. Which hadiths in Bukhari and Muslim are the words of Muhammad, and which ones aren't?

Salaam Alaikum.

NABA wrote: Most of them are words of God,

Most of them? Which ones are and which ones aren't?

NABA wrote: I only prove Qur'an is the word of Allah,

But the Quran tells you to obey Muhammad as well as God. Are you saying that some of the things he said were not from God? If not, who were they from?

NABA wrote: and it is.

No, it isn't.

NABA wrote: well I given U proof regarding salty water

And I have shown your "proof" to be wrong.

NABA wrote:  and when we follow Qur'an simultaneously we follow our Prophet.for eg Allah says in ch 17 v 23-24-Allah says obey your parents and our Prophet Muhammad S.A.W(pbuh) said one of the griveous sin is not obeying your parents.

So if by following the Quran you follow Muhammad, why the need for hadiths? You said that most of what is in Muslim and Bukhari is from God. So does that mean that there are some things that Muhammad taught that are not from God?

How do you know what is from God and what is not?