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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

1. Liberating Afghanistan from the intollerant Taliban

Only Afghans can grant the verdict whether they feel free or not. You hold no such right. Plus, you won't have to twist ayaats if your statements had any weight.

You can be pro-Bush to your hearts content. We have no problem with accepting the presence of convoluted cases in our world. Just refrain from mocking the Quran by twisting its ayaats for your very own purpose.



Ah, and it matters not how many millions upon millions in Afghanistan vote, because Sasha knows everyone in Pakistan and Afghanistan 'that matters.'    And so, these millions that are voting are all puppets, all part of the US led puppet show...the 30 million person puppet show!  These viewpoints are amazing aren't they?
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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

We only see his [Bush's] (and, of course, the other Neo Cons') actions.


Ah, and this is ALL you see...there is no evil but Bush...your thinking is like that of a child..W, you're like a 60 year old child (in that respect.)
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Originally posted by karimah karimah wrote:

The only ugly and bad things i see is what the US and the UK are doing now you cant have good without the bad and the ulgy so if you put the three of them together what do you get

ISLAM=GOOD

UK=BAD

US=UGLY



This is ludicrous - you don't believe in the sin nature and in various wars between good and evil in all of us?
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Originally posted by karimah karimah wrote:

muslims are silent because if we speek out we are torroist's if we call what the UK and US are doing to the muslim country's evil  we are torroist's.

Arabs and muslims are dieing every day at the hands of the US and the UK  but where do you see muslim speeking out you dont because if they do they are as torroist's 



Are you suggesting that there is not a terrorism problem - at all?  Do you not even acknowledge the pendulum that swings between doing too little about terrorism and overreacting to it?
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Originally posted by Community Community wrote:

Do you really think most of countries like the netherlands are against the war because arabs are dieing? or because it gives chance to them to finally do what they are commanded in the koran:fighting against opressors? instead of taking on the job with two hands, they rather choose arab nationalistic sentiments and cultural affinities then faith based ones. Where do you think that will lead them to? salvation?


Yes, this is a valid distinction.  That is nationalism vs. faith in God.  These are, as Chuck Colson opined, Kingdoms in Conflict.
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Originally posted by Community Community wrote:

Allah has all power He changes whatever He wish, and the hearts of men are under His full control, we have to submit to Him, not to news media or people opinions but by being honest and truthful in that how we can learn new things and work to better ourselves so can everybody else, and to stand for justice even if it is against our ownselves. The balance is broken and so we need to fix it, and fixing it means being truthful, not being on the side of the US when it does wrong or on the side of China or Russia when they are wrong but it is about being on the right, and being on the right means that wherever you are and on whatever side, command with what is known(the good) and discourage(end) what is wrong/evil, this is not done through being an enemy to any party but rather being a good advisor and well wisher to all.


Excellent responses Community to our communist traveler.  Another way that being on the right is never accomplished is through political extremism and terrorism.  The right is NEVER accomplished this way - but, rather, in letting people live their lives, quietly, as it is possible to do so, God willing, in peace and in freedom.  Someone, like W, who seems to thrill to the political beat moreso than the spiritual or heavenly drummer, cannot understand/perceive this.  To him, there are people "worth knowing" [his own words], and those that are not worth knowing.

That is sad.
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Originally posted by candor candor wrote:

Originally posted by Community Community wrote:

Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

"A theif thinks everyone else to be a thief like him"

 

Yeah indeed, you should apply that to yourself when you accuse the US of all kinds of things based on power and greed....speaks volumes about your criminal mind, as for me, i just learn from experiance with people and look at the possibilities which might apply to your socialist agenda(get over it).

Its not just Whisper who call the U.S a thief, duffer; Chavez, who is not a Muslim, calls the U.S thief, too; and every sensible person in the world agrees with it (irrespective of whether he/she admits it) .



Knowledge transfer and technology transfer is happening all around the world.  It doesn't hurt to be steeped in the primary languages (not just English).  Do you really think Russia's in such good shape or even Japan?  Those economies have had great adjustments to go through.

Further, are you saying India hasn't made great economic progress and national progress in the past 50 years?
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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

don't ask such heavy questions from him or his side-kick.


haha...ad hominem attacks from the communist minion of small minded insults...I'll take it as a badge of honor..
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