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    Posted: 24 October 2005 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

Bismillah,

I guess the change I'm referring to is changing the status quo, which is comfortable for some, but causes there to be no water in Gaza, and no healthcare for many of us in America.  It's the rich and powerful who are benefitting from the status quo the way it is now, and powerful is separate from rich.  I don't agree with your statements that the West is causing the problems.  Greed from everyone involved is the source of the evil.  And many Westerners like me hate the poverty, murder, and wars all over the globe caused by greed from all of the ones who are benefitting from the status quo.

I don't like the status quo between men and women either, thus the reference to powerful, domineering.



Thank you herjihad - you've made some very good statements here - much of which I agree with.  Let's not forget the role of freedom in making changes to the status quo.  Freedom is EXTREMELY powerful in being able to be a catalyst for positive changes that please God.
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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

As if now all is okay with your loved Ferenghis on our streets who keep on killing


Of course it matters not to W who they kill and who those who are killed killed and raped.  No, it matters not because it's not about right and wrong with him, but about some nationalism, supposedly knowing those 'that matter' and sticking things in the US eye...that's what matters according the Sasha the Whisperer.  Oh, and bowing the knee to his marx god...how could I almost forget the worship service?

And what happened to the truth and to right and wrong?


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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Ever thought why Allah Kareem might be blocking the effect of your [Community's] words?


Says who?  You?  Now, you're going to tell us what Allah is up to Mr. Marx worshiper?  This is getting more and more rich..
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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

It's just so hard to be polite when your point of view makes absolutely no sense to me!  I believe that discussion without insulting each other encourages peace in our world. 

So, I will try.  I like the Jeffersonian ideal of rebellion against a goverment which does not represent the people.  The closest thing to that is impeachment, which I mentioned I advocate for Bush. 



As long as we're talking about Bush - how could you possibly claim he does not represent Americans (as the least) when more Americans (63 million) voted for him than any other president in US history?  Way more than elected Clinton, for instance, who was elected twice by less than 50% of the population.
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Originally posted by Community Community wrote:

to justify hostility and agression towards those who done something in the past, Is this the faith?


Yes, this is such a hugely important and relevent question?  For what do we live - let alone die or kill for?
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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

(Unless they are murdering, maiming, or torturing other Muslims without a thought, like suicide bombers.)


Wow, you make a distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims here - do you really believe in that distinction?
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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Are you Muslim?

Herjihad, what would you say to all of that? I just can't help laughing at such "Muslim of Convenience". Or, should we say Convenient Muslim?



You, of all people, shouldn't be discussing faith and what makes up a true Muslim - you atheist of practicality and worshiper of the man Marx.
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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

Moveon.org is one organization which opposes his presidency.


No way - really?
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