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abuayisha
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Please drop your pretense at seeking an explanation. What I have said about you is simply an applicable conclusion based on your own statements. You allow your hate for Islam and Muslims to cause you to be intellectually dishonest.
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Ron Webb
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Really, abuayisha, what is the point in posting something like that? If you think there is some context I am missing, then please explain what it is. Otherwise, ad hominems only undermine your own credibility.
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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abuayisha
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Theology must be understood in context, however given your feigned ignorance of contextual relevance, which has been explained on these boards many times, along with how you ended your comment about our Holy Book, indeed you and your ilk are very careless and vile.
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Ron Webb
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I added back my qualifying phrase "as far as I know", which you dropped in quoting me. Without that, my statement is much more polarizing and reckless than I intended it. Yes, rhetoric has consequences -- but so do misquotes. Abu Loren says that Islam forbids friendship between girls and boys. I wasn't aware of that, and I invite him to show evidence for that claim. However, it doesn't surprise me much, because the Quran repeatedly forbids Muslims to have non-Muslim friends. Just a few of many examples:
It's also quite possible that Muslims have ways of twisting the (IMHO) very clear xenophobic message of the Quran into something more ecumenical. I'd like to hear about that too. But please don't accuse me of fueling hatred and polarization, merely for pointing out the many polarizing and hate-filled statements in the Quran itself. Edited by Ron Webb - 22 June 2014 at 2:16pm |
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Caringheart
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Gretings abuayisha, I agree that we are living in precarious times, but, Ron's statement.... is it rhetoric, or is it truth? Because the way I see it, until we all can embrace the day of extending friendship to all, evaluating each on his own merits and with equal treatment, the times will remain dangerous. If there is an ideology that says you must not be friends with this group, or that group, we will never find the true path... the path that leads to peace among humanity and preservation of the creation. We must find the way that brings friendship on earth, rather than distrust. asalaam, Caringheart |
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abuayisha
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This is the type of irresponsible, and reckless islamophobia that only serves to polarize and fuel hatred. These are difficult times we are all living in and rhetoric has consequences. |
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Ron Webb
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Abu Loren, you too might well be advised not to make comments in matters you don't understand. As far as I know, Islam is the only religion that forbids friendship, ever, with anyone. Certainly Christianity would not have any objection to boys and girls being friends. In this particular situation I agree that nak03 should be cautious, because this girl is talking about "love" and he clearly doesn't feel that way. I would advise him that he should look upon their relationship as an opportunity to be a good influence on her (it sounds like she needs it), while being careful that she is not a bad influence on him. |
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Caringheart
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Wow, osamahk,
I started out having some respect and consideration for you, but after these posts... you have lost it. You probably won't care... but you could get back some respect and consideration if you did. I wish you peace and I hope you find it. asalaam. |
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