Pope washes feet of Muslim prisoner

nospam001 wrote: Good point. So how does the woman's age make a difference? (Given that she is not a child.)

You should ask the pope man this question since it seems he has a liking for youngsters, otherwise we'd see a 50+ year old man or women in the mix. but we don't. Maybe a coincidence... Maybe. Either way in my beliefs and the christian tradition, he shouldn't be touching women feet old or young.

Edited by Rational - 26 April 2013 at 2:23pm

Reepicheep wrote: Rational, I find it interesting that you are obsessing over the Pope washing the feet of a woman...

You're a fool if you think I'm obsessing over this. It's like me finding threads you've been involved in and telling you you're obsessed about whatever you were discussing. That's a poor thing to say. I'm giving my personal opinion. You don't like that reepischeap, well, you know the rest.

Reepicheep wrote: As a muslim, do you believe that it is perfectly acceptable for a devout muslim male such as yourself to "wash, stroke, caress, dry, and kiss" the feet of your fellow muslim males?  Is that a common form of greeting amongst muslim males?

No I don't greet anyone by washing their feet, men or women. Do you? Are you confused?

Edited by Rational - 27 April 2013 at 9:21am

Reepicheep wrote: Rational, do you consider it a sin for a devout muslim male such as yourself to "wash, stroke, caress, dry, and kiss" the feet of your fellow muslim males?  You obviously consider it a great sin for a muslim male to "wash, stroke, caress, dry, and kiss" the feet of a muslim female.

If it is not with the intention of lust and does not lead either one of them to commit a sin, then a male "washing, stroking, caressing, drying" the feet of another male would not be considered a sin. However, "kissing" is very questionable.

In the case of a man "washing, stroking, caressing, drying, or kissing" the feet of a woman that he is not married to, then this would be considered a sin.



Edited by Rational - 27 April 2013 at 10:48am

Rational wrote:

Greetings rational,

Hi.  I'm sorry to take so long to respond to you.  Yes, I understood that you were following your beliefs and teachings and pretty much saying that I do not disagree with you... that I understand your conflict.

In answer to your question... I do believe we do grow closer to God when we give our whole life to Him... but as the apostle Paul said... some are called to celibate or, the priestly, life and others are called to marriage... both are vessels to sanctify us.

As for what I quoted in my last post... You are correct, it was written by a shia muslim in response to a question about similarities between Catholicism and Shiism.  I don't know where they got that celibacy is severely condemned in islam.  I think it goes to the fact that, isn't marriage required for the completion of ones deen in islam?
They weren't quite correct on the 'Catholic ideal to remain celibate' either.  Both are acceptable in the sight of God.  Marriage between a male and female is one of the sacraments of God... as much as marriage to the church is.

I have found that there are some that defend Mutah, and there are others that condemn mutah for what it is.

Salaam,
Caringheart

This is why I have trouble with islam.  I find it to be very conflicted in many ways.


Edited by Caringheart - 28 April 2013 at 12:11am