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Caringheart
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24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a grain of wheat fall into the ground and die, it remains only a grain: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. - the words of Yeshua |
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Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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NABA
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Hear o israel your lord my lord is one God (bible mark 12:29)-words of Jesus Christ(pbuh), Allah is one, Allah is eternal, he is neither born nor givevbirth, there is nothing like him (ch 112 v 1-4 from Quran).
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Caringheart
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Greetings NABA, I don't think it was possible to convey the depth and meaning in all of Yeshua's words to us. I think there is a great deal we can not understand about God and Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit. Much of what Yeshua spoke was a mystery to those to whom He spoke His words... a puzzle to man and his limited understanding. The resurrection revealed a great deal of the mystery, but it is still a puzzle to the limited mind of man. You have to know all of His words, to glean the fullness of the message... and you have to be able to accept a bit of mystery... things that we will not understand until we meet our Maker. Salaam, Caringheart Did you see my post to you from July 9? Edited by Caringheart - 24 July 2013 at 11:55am |
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I never said that Mohammad had a special teacher (s). I accept that Mohamad had �revelations� or hallucinations when he was having his epileptic fits. The Torah and Injil were well known by Mohamad. Mohamad travelled a lot as a boy and as a trader. Of course he was exposed to Jews and Christians and what they believed. Look at the tradition of the Christian monk Bahira who was supposed to have influenced Mohamad. Look at the contact Mohamad had with the Christians of Ethiopia the Cristians of Najran and the Byzantine Christians. Look at the dealings he had with the local Jews of his own area. Of course he knew their stories and beliefs. You ask - How could many Jews and Christians amongst his contemporaries become Muslims and believe in his truthfulness if they knew he was copying from their scriptures or learning from their priests or rabbis? Well actually many Jews and Christians did not believe in his �new message� ! Edited by Experiential - 26 July 2013 at 2:14am |
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NABA
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If v take ur logic that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) knew ingil then y there are no faults in Quran as i quoted faults from bible in other thread to u.how cum Quran a flawless revelation written by human?? This again proves ur arguement wrong!!! Quran is the last revelation by Allah.
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I don�t see what you are trying to say in if Prophet Muhammad knew the Injil, then why are there no faults in the Quran ? Who says there are no faults in the Quran? Only Muslims. You still have not adequately responded to the silly verses like Soloman and the ants and the sun setting in muddy pond. How is the Quran faultless when most Muslims can�t even understand Arabic. How can a miracle book be tied just to one language. That�s a fault in itself. I replied to you about the Bible already. What I said was � yes there are faults. That is because it was written by man but inspired by God. This is different from the Muslim idea that the Quran is the �exact word of God� |
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NABA
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U yourself saying that bible is written by man inspired by God,y we listen to the man y not our creator Allah?I answered you satisfactorily about prophet Solomon(pbuh) and ants,I proved U wrong about ur view that ants communicate only by signals,moreover I also want to quote,that in many translations are different,few say sun is in the mud or sun is in black sea.i want to ask you suppose we go to a beach in the evening and we c that sun is setting,some may say sun is sinking.but does it really sink???does sun really sets???answer to this question is in ch 3 v 7-Allah says that there are some verses which may have different meanings,Allah in several places say that Qur'an is for those who understand.Allah has given us wisdom.in the verse he reached the setting of the sun means he reached the place where sun sets.
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Caringheart
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As far as I can see, this only means that Muhammad once saw the sun going down over the Mediterranean sea. |
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