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Assalamalecum,Allah in ch 41 v 34 says bad deed can't equal good deed, repel the evil deed by better deed n thereupon the one whom there was enemity with u will become ur devoted freind.
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Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

Assalamalecum,Allah in Quran in ch 2 v 83 says speak nicely to people, Allah in ch 28 v 83 says Allah will grant home of hereafter only to those who don't want mischief on the land.means those who don't want mischief automatically they are peace loving people.Allah in ch 49 v 13 saus Allah created u from a single couple and divided u in different colours and regions so that u may recognise each other n love each other not hatred, the best amongst u is the one who posess taqwa ie.righteousness, God consciousness.

Greetings NABA,

Regarding the 3 verses you have referenced...

even though 2:83 is speaking of peaceful existence, it is a verse speaking 'against' the 'children of Israel'.  2:83, 84, 85 are all speaking against a people... not 'for' peace.  Speaking against a people is not a way that promotes peace.
Guiding your own people is a way that promotes peace.

I am looking for verses that speak of how to treat one another... not about the rewards in the hereafter, but the guidance on the behavior of one towards another in the here and now.

I come across this;
28:86 Thou hadst no hope that the Scripture would be inspired in thee; but it is a mercy from thy Lord, so never be a helper to the disbelievers.

Wouldn't it be better, and make more sense for God to instruct us to be a helper to the disbelievers?  Overcome evil with good?  Overcome them with kindness?  Wouldn't it make more sense that kindness leads to the One who created us?

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49:11 O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are;
Does it promote peace, to promote ideas of one being 'better than another'?  Wouldn't it better promote peace between people if we were taught to see each other as equals, taught to strive together in helping one another, so that all may learn to serve the Lord, the Creator, together in goodness?
49:13 O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.
I do not see the Lord, the Creator as promoting ideas of superiority, so that people strive not with one another, but against one another, in trying to prove themselves better than another.

The Lord in the Bible tells us not to seek to be noble, but rather seek to humble thyself.  Yshwe Messiah, taught that God seeks the humble... those who consider themselves no better than others.  It is humility that others should see in us.  This, Yshwe demonstrated by washing the feet of the Apostles... His disciples.

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Assalamalecum,Allah in Quran in ch 2 v 83 says speak nicely to people, Allah in ch 28 v 83 says Allah will grant home of hereafter only to those who don't want mischief on the land.means those who don't want mischief automatically they are peace loving people.Allah in ch 49 v 13 saus Allah created u from a single couple and divided u in different colours and regions so that u may recognise each other n love each other not hatred, the best amongst u is the one who posess taqwa ie.righteousness, God consciousness.
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The thread went off track and I'm still waiting for people to share verses of the qur'an that they feel promote peace.  Shukran und salaam.
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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

I would like if anyone would share with me where they feel the Qur'an promotes peace.
Thank you.
 
And your not here breeding Hatred , Separation , Ignorace , War .
 
Can you explain this verse for US. The Christian God is a A man of War .
 
Exodus 15 ; 3 , Where It States , And I Quote ; The Lord ( Yahweh ) Is A Man Of War
One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

proper quote: (from page 1, post March 16th... also see opening post)

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

can U quote some verses related to violence and injustice from Qur'an.

Greetings NABA,

That's not what this thread is for.
Thanks.

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I felt that Matt had taken the thread in a good direction, so why go backwards?
asalaam.
 
So that mean you can't quote any Scriptures from the Holy Qur'aan , That you have listen to or you cliam to have read okkk
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proper quote: (from page 1, post March 16th... also see opening post)

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

can U quote some verses related to violence and injustice from Qur'an.

Greetings NABA,

That's not what this thread is for.
Thanks.

Salaam,
Caringheart


I felt that Matt had taken the thread in a good direction, so why go backwards?
asalaam.


Edited by Caringheart - 23 May 2014 at 4:12pm
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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

can U quote some verses related to violence and injustice from Qur'an.

Greetings NABA,


Salaam,
Caringheart
 
 can U quote some verses related to violence and injustice from Qur'an< How can you say this > That's not what this thread is for. Thanks.< You should makeup your mind , either you want to know or you don't which is it .
 
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