Marijuana

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Before I address the issue which Brother Mankind has put forth for us to consider, I want to take a moment or two to address what Inhale has said.  We are not discussing here any of the issues you bring up.  This is not a "should or should not marijuana be legalized" issue.  This is a thread about whether it is haraam to smoke marijuana.  It's too bad that people got off track by bringing up other issues, but I think they did so to help Brother Mankind see the dangers in smoking marijuana because he simply doesn�t accept the fact that Allah forbids its use.

I was just commenting on what Angel pasted from a site. I didn't want the thread to end with misinformation. 

But the truth of the matter is it doesn't matter if no one has ever died from using it (which by the way is not true), 

People have died from mixing drugs, or driving while intoxicated. No healthy human being has ever smoked pot and died. At least we have no such record of this. What I mean by this is just LD50 (Amount needed to kill a lab rat 50% of the time) wise, like LSD (Acid), If you plan on ODing on THC, you would get to a state where you would be too messed up to consume a lethal amount of the stuff. 

whether it is the lesser of evils (that is a very controversial subject), whether the government condones it or not (you tend to judge the evilness of the government simply by whether or not you are free to get high)

Evil is a bad word here, maybe stupid would of worked better? Prohibition is stupid. I'm not saying I want to see OTC Heroin, but there are ways of dealing with drug issues that might actually work. Are we benefiting from the War on Drugs? 

, whether it enhances memory (go back and read the studies again, you are definitely missing something)

I read this in a magazine while waiting for someone in the doctor's lobby. I don't remember the mag though.. 
 http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Study_finds_marijuana_use_leads_ to_brain_development_in_rats

Most "drugs of abuse" such as alcohol, heroin, cocaine and nicotine suppress growth of new brain cells. However, researchers found that cannabinoids promoted generation of new neurons in rats' hippocampuses.

Hippocampuses are the part of the brain responsible for learning and memory, and the study held true for either plant-derived or the synthetic version of cannabinoids.

"This is quite a surprise," said Xia Zhang, an associate professor with the Neuropsychiatry Research Unit at the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon.

"Chronic use of marijuana may actually improve learning memory when the new neurons in the hippocampus can mature in two or three months," he added.

The research by Dr. Zhang and a team of international researchers is to be published in the November issue of the Journal of Clinical Investigation, but their findings are on-line now.

The scientists also noticed that cannabinoids curbed depression and anxiety, which Dr. Zhang says, suggests a correlation between neurogenesis and mood swings. (Or, it at least partly explains the feelings of relaxation and euphoria of a pot-induced high.)

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To be honest with you, your head is so twisted toward N.O.R.M.L. that it's no wonder you can't see straight on this issue.  Do you even realize how bad you logic is on this subject?  Or how your bad logic regarding this matter may affect Brother Mankind? 
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I don't care for NORML, and I was not trying to get Mankind, nor anyone else to try Marijuana. I just don't like seeing people base their conclusions on topics they researched at *.gov websites, or they learned from one side of the story. I want people to see both sides and then come up with their own opinion on something. I feel like the previous posts only showed Mankind BS answers that were either made up on the spot or pasted from an anti-Marijuana website. He needs to see both sides first. 

I would never argue that "oh it's natural, pass the bong!" -- Lots of things are natural, doesn't mean I should be ingesting them. Datura comes to mind.. 

It's true that Marijuana in the past contained less THC than it does today, but so what? That just means that back then, it took more eating or smoking to get you as high as you would need to be today. The reason today's Marijuana is more potent is NOT because chemicals are added to the crop, but because humans evolve. We learned new ways of growing plants (Hydroponics, Aeroponics, etc.) We have better equipment now, artifical lighting, etc.. 

Now about addiction, let's get something out of the way: Marijuana is NOT physically addicting. I think we both agree on this. Now about being habit forming, or psychologically addicting, I think that this depends on the person.

As I said, people who have problems, especially depression, should not smoke Marijuana. Why? Because it's fun. It makes life fun and when you are sitting around and have nothing to do, you will smoke it again to pass time. And again and again just because you find it FUN, not because if you stop using it, you'll have withdrawal symptoms. Most people I know smoke maybe once a week, IF that. The dirty teen who steals to get his drug fix and lives in the slums is only about 1% of all drug users. 

Dealers usually do NOT add any additive to the Marijuana they sell. The main reason is because it's too expensive to do so. I would *love* if I pay $20 a gram for Marijuana and recieve Opium with it, but it won't happen! This is just to scare people. If it really worries you, then just grow your own or find a dealer you can trust, or take a trip to Amsterdam : ) 

Marijuan does stay in your system for a long time, but after a day or two, you feel normal again, as if you've not taken anything. Now if the inxoticant is not altering your brain (And at that point -- It's not.) Why doesn't your prayer count? 

And what about the issue of prescription drugs? Benzos, SSRIs, MAOIs, they all alter your conciousness and some are even fatal if taken in large doses or if you don't follow a very strict diet. They are legal however, so what about them and Islam? 

Edited by inhale