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 Topic: common misconception regarding AllahPosted: 12 May 2013 at 7:08pm |
Greetings nothing, I think you are correct. However, did you skip over my second post? Do you think it is right that God will accept into His kingdom those who while on earth were willing to deny Him? Salaam to you, and thanks for this discussion, Caringheart Edited by Caringheart - 12 May 2013 at 7:09pm |
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Posted: 12 May 2013 at 5:54pm |
This verses above have no connection with the topic you raised Caringheart, which is concerning for any person under duress. It actually strengthening your original statement that stated the Holy Spirit is the uncompromising God even when dealing with weak creatures who are under intense pressure. Sure there always people who can withstand pressure, but how about the weaker one, will the Holy Spirit still unmoved when seeing his subjects in agony? Because if it is for me to decide I will be very lenient, considering I (always) expect nothing in return anyway I think it is really up to us to work it out. |
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 10:38pm |
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12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him: if we deny Him, He also will deny us (from the letters of Paul) If God was willing to let His Son suffer and die, proclaiming the Word of God, for men, is it wrong for God not to expect any less of us? Should we then be free to deny God in order to save our earthly lives? 25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. (the words of Yeshua)
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 10:35pm |
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32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. (the words of Yeshua) Edited by Caringheart - 11 May 2013 at 10:52pm |
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Posted: 10 May 2013 at 11:31am |
That sound very cruel to me for someone under duress, considering the different in strength of each individuals. But than again maybe you mean the jealousy is the main factor in this regard? Am I to supposed to understand that compassionate character and the full knowledge of Creator regarding His creation's weaknesses is absent here? |
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Posted: 10 May 2013 at 7:56am |
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Allah has given free will to human beings to either worship or deny him.that's the difference between angels and human beings,Allah will give the real result in the hereafter,that's y Allah says this in ch 16 v 106.
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Posted: 09 May 2013 at 9:55pm |
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allah gives them permission to deny the faith if need be. (surah 16:106)
The God of Yeshua never gives such permission, in fact this is the one unforgiveable sin... to deny the Spirit of God. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34 ... for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. (the words of Yeshua) |
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Posted: 01 January 2013 at 10:22am |
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Allah never said to deny him,in Qur'an Allah in many places say that he had send many messengers to address people to worship only him and not associate others,he is saying about unbelievers that he will give them severe punishment to them on judgment day,in Surah Al Tahaa ch 20 v 130 Allah orders us to offer Salaah 5 times a day.and for us Muslims and Jesus(pbuh) our God is only one I.e Allah.in Surah Al Imran ch 3 v 52 Jesus(pbuh) addresses to Jews to worship in only one Allah and says we are all Muslims.Also no Muslim is a Muslim if he doesn't respect Jesus(pbuh),we respect him, we love him and rate him one of the best messengers of Allah.Allahfiz
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. But who am I here, I don't know how his domain works, maybe we are expected to do the same? If it is good enough for him than it is good enough for his subjects to act alike no?