LET US FULFILL OUR OBLIGATIONS - Event Date: 11 December 2012

I'm sorry Friendship,
 I did not mean to be offensive but I can see where I may have sounded terse.  I only meant that it has become redundant.  I think most of us get it by now... read this book. 
Salaam,
CH

and I agree with you education is key.  The easiest way to promote education, where education is limited due to economy and/or lifestyle, is through talking to others... free speech... exchanging of ideas.


Edited by Caringheart - 16 December 2012 at 9:48pm

Assalamu alaika. Caringheart.

You behaving now like one who wants to follow Muhammad Rasulullah. I am fully aware of the economic downturn and that is the reason I am insisting of coming back to obey ONE ALLAH alone.
According to the teaching of Muhammad understanding and believing in Allah rotates on one (Caringheart) only knowing a letter, a word, a verse (sentence) and a chapter of the Qur'an. After knowing that then one has to follow the actions of Muhammad squarely in his life time.
We have problems with the Muslims. I like the West for their sensitivity to the life in this world. Look Japan throwing their prime Minister because he did not improve their economy! But the current PM was a PM before. What I am trying to assert and assure you is the current PM cannot do anything to improve the lots of his people. The lesson is from this verse: And Allah puts forward the example of a township (Makka after 610 A.D), that dwelt secure and well-content: its provision coming to it in abundance from every place, but it (its people) denied the Favors of Allah (with ungratefulness). So Allah made it taste extreme of hunger (famine) and fear, because of that (evil i.e. denying Muhammad Rasulullah) which they (its people) used to do." At that time Abu Sufyan was the leader of the Makkans. They beseech their gods to do away with the famine but failed. So he went to Madina and met Muhammad Rasulullah and addressed him, "Please beseech your Allah to remove famine from us in the manner Joseph removed famine from the Egyptians." So Muhammad prayed and the famine disappeared.
Now, in this story, there is certainly continuity of the Message for according to the Torah, Allah only listens to those righteous- his messengers and those after them who follow their way.
Look, I am not saying that the Japanse and you must convert to Islam that is to pray 5 times daily etc. I am emphasizing that the way of Muhammad is not practiced by those who profess his teaching. There are among his followers who know the reality and want to actualize it. You should support them and run away from their ignorant leaders. You can only do that through correct knowledge!
I will not mention that book again since you do not have the resources to buy it.

Friendship.

Nausheen wrote: Irshad Manji is a Lesbian, she cannot be our teacher. You have been pointed this our earlier as well. Your insisting on promoting her reflects one of the two things; either your ignorance of muslim tradition, or your disregard of it.

I am very surprised by your statement. I was under the impression that you are a very intelligent and well educated woman, but this post amounts to something like intellectual bankruptcy. Instead of finding valid counterarguments to what Ms. Manji is saying, you declare that she must be wrong, because she's a lesbian. This is like saying that E=m*c^2 cannot be true, because Einstein is a Jew and Jews are not true believers. So I'd like to ask you to reconsider: why do you disagree with the views expressed by Ms. Manji (other than homosexuality of course)? Why do you disagree with her views about the silent Muslim majority? Why can't you consider her contributions to the debates about progress and peace? Because she is a lesbian?

I'm not ignoring Muslim traditions, but I believe in progress. Slavery was part of Muslim tradition. Is this tradition worth keeping? Discrimination against women is part of Sharia traditions? Are these traditions worth keeping? The discrimination against homosexuals is part of Christian and Muslim tradition. Is this tradition worth keeping?
 

Nausheen wrote: As for 7th century Arab culture - the Arabs used to bury their daughters alive and treat women like chattel. Islam came to reform that and give women a position of honor and security. Today, Islam is the fastest growing religion and majority of converts into the faith are women.

Yes, there was some progress, but it stopped when the Islamic Golden Age ended. Mainstream Muslims worldwide should embrace all human rights and the secular model. Mainstream Muslims should stop making supremacy claims ('we are the best people, we are better than everyone else').

Frequent thoughts of the US being superior to all other countries poisons American brains and damages the relationship between America and the rest of the world.

Frequent thoughts of Islam being superior to all other religions poisons Muslim brains and damages the relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims.

Again and again here on Islamicity there's talk about the one and only one truth and the distortions of holy books other than the Qur'an. What does this accomplish?


Edited by Matt Browne - 17 December 2012 at 8:36am

Matt Browne wrote: You seem to be promoting a Rasulullah Islam, which is somewhat different from Sunni or Shia Islam. I tried to understand your view, which is available herehttp://epubco.com/samples/978-1-62212-637-8Sample.pdfbut found it very complicated.

Matt,
I'd respond to your post to me in detail when I have more time than right now.
Just wanted to clarify a small issue in your post of Friendship.

RasuluAllah means 'Rasul of Allah' or Messenger of Allah.

It is the title of Muhammad (pbuh). Its not any particular form of Islam.

Peace to you.