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Therepy against anti-semitism: Freedom of choice - Event Date: 14 November 2012

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendship Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 10:17am
Assalamu alaiki Nausheen.

Please note that:
1. The greatest 'Kibr' is arrogance triggered by ignorance. 'Kibr' while displaying the bounties of Allah on one is commendaable. I am proud that I know the Sunna of Muhammad. The senior Sahabas used to say: There is no a verse of the Qur'an but I know when it was revealed, the causes of revelation and its inner and outer meaning. If there is a Sahaba who knows more than I, I will certainly go to him. Ali said: I am from Banu Hashim I am the first to accept Islam when you were running away, I am from the Banu Makhzum and I grew under the care of my uncle.
2. The ones who walked with humility are those who dissociate from the ignorant ones who are arrogant sticking to what their forefathers did.
3. As a display of your ignorance you have forgotten Qur'an 2:144 and Qur'an 47 and yet you are proud of quoting from the Qur'an.
Answer the following questions please:
1. When did Arafat take place and why did it take place on that day?
2. In which of the letters the holy apostle sent to the then world leaders SAW was written?
3. What did Abubakar say when he come to the holy apostle and saw him dead?
If you know the answers and you keep silent are you not concealing the truth?

Please note that Friendship want to enter paradise.

Friendship.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendship Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 9:54am
Assalamu alaikum abuayisa.

Those who deny evidences, proofs, signs etc are challenged to produce something better than what they were taught and saw put into practice that improved the lot of the community irrespective of their beliefs. No one has ever produced proofs evidences and signs to counteract what Friendship is saying.  Is this not a sign of ignorance? All the questions I have asked, no one has produced an answer. Is it not a sing ignorance and blind followership for one to limit sending Salat on the name of Muhammad and not Ahmad, Mustapha, Al-Ameen, and Abu Qasim? Are these not the holy apostles names? Friendship want to learn and the aim of this forum is to educate and not to fall into polemics that leads to nowhere. Learning is from books and not from mere assumption. Why did you not comment on what the author says on page 33?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abuayisha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 6:41am
Originally posted by Nausheen Nausheen wrote:

Friendship,

I think you are a jew in guise of a muslim trying to create confusion on our boards and misguide us!

I think you should simply be ignored. But hats off to your efforts.
 
Seeking to cause decent and confusion is certainly not limited to Jews.  Friendship is likely well intentioned, but confused and mentally challenged.  On occasion his thoughts are expressed coherently, however most comments, like his book, are mindless rambling nonsense.  Wallahu Mustaan.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 1:22am
Originally posted by Nausheen Nausheen wrote:

Friendship,

I think you are a jew in guise of a muslim trying to create confusion on our boards and misguide us!

I think you should simply be ignored. But hats off to your efforts.



 
I also think this guy should be ignored, all of his posts are anti Qur'an and anti Islamic. His only purpose here seems to be to sow the seeds of doubt among the believers.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nausheen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 12:29am
Friendship,

I think you are a jew in guise of a muslim trying to create confusion on our boards and misguide us!

I think you should simply be ignored. But hats off to your efforts.



<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa

Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena

wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nausheen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 12:21am

Originally posted by Friendship Friendship wrote:

I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT SENDING SALAT TO MUHAMMAD IS COMPULSORY.


Did I say it was '�ompulsory'?
Is this how you have comprehended my previous post?

Adab is not compulsory from the sharia point of view either, but even Allah does not say 'Muhammad'without using a honorific title when he (sallallahu alaihe wassallam) is mentioned in the Quran.

Originally posted by Friendship Friendship wrote:


Please before you gravitate to the Qur'an understand the etiquette in the Torah.Friendship.


What?

<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa

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Assalamu alaiki Nausheen


There are etiquette in Islamic teaching:

1. If you read and you do not understand read another book.
2. If you hear something, take it if it is useful to you at that time.  This is what 'Umar called 'waaqi'a. Anything that does not bother you forget about it.
3. Whatever one says, you will not be called to account for that. Don't judge others but judge yourself.
4. If you know the history of the Sahabas, you will know why I am proud. Let us respect knowledge: WHEN ABU HURAIRA WAS REMINDED ABOUT A HADITH HE QUOTED HE DENIED THAT. HE HAD TO CHECK HIS WRITING. WHEN HE FOUND THAT HADITH, HE AGREED. I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT SENDING SALAT TO MUHAMMAD IS COMPULSORY. GIVE YOUR REFERENCE!
My advice to you is: You are a female and suppose to be modest like the daughters of Jethro. Please before you gravitate to the Qur'an understand the etiquette in the Torah.

Friendship.



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Originally posted by Friendship Friendship wrote:

Assalamu alaikum Abu Loren.Yes, indeed I am proud to know a lot that you and others do not know. In the first place, if you have a skill and profession, I cannot depend it in the Qur'an. I do not know what your profession says. I am sure you cannot claim knowing more than me Qur'an 22:5. That is my profession. You are supposed to know in the Qur'an only one letter, or a word, or an Ayat or a chapter that will make you obey the Sunna of Muhammad. Knowing everything is harmful.You should be ashamed of yourself for you do not know the meaning of the hadith you quoted on the Arafat day. You do not that Arafat was not observed on the 9th. I am sure if you pray at all, you do that insulting Muhammad. Well, just be patient. Think when you stand before Allah reciting Him the Qur'an and not the actions of Muhammad. Tell me the value of an Ibadat not done according to the Sunna? Are you saying that Dr. Muhammad Khan is not a scholar? Please stop disgracing Islam. it is better Icforum remove you from this forum.Friendship.



What kind of Islamic scholar has the certificate to insult muslims left right and center?
What Islamic university issues these certificates?

You are proud? Do you know that Kibr is Allah's upper garment and pride His lower and whoever competes Him in these He destroys them, and He does not care ... have you ever heard that Hadith?
You may have learnt a lot, but sorry to say you don't sound like a m'arif, because you claim to be proud!

I was shocked to read this above post. I dont know anything, nor do I claim to know anything, but I know that Allah has said in the Quran, His servants are those who walk on this earth in humility.

Another small reminder, whoever does not send salah/salam on the messenger of Allah after his mention (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) is a loser.

Some muslims carelessly say 'Muhammad' in their discussion and forget that even Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala did not call him just that - not once in the Quran - He is always mentioned with a certain level of respect even by The Creator!!

barak Allahu feek!

Edited by Nausheen - 21 November 2012 at 7:53pm
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Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena

wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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