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I am going through a similar situation at present, all I could suggest is to equip yourself with the pro/con from your employer's point of view by visiting www.vaccinerights.com, and use this opportunity to educate the Imams and others about the main point: FORCING employee to take the vaccine or they will be fired, and that the employers refused to accept just saying NO, you can only say NO for MEDICAL OR RELIGIOUS reasons. Presently all the CDC has to say is that "Flu vaccination of HCP has been shown to reduce the risk of flu and absenteeism in vaccinated HCP and reduce the risk of respiratory illness and deaths in nursing home residents" In my case my employer wants me to describe the religious doctrine or practice that is contrary to influenza vaccine......the Flu vaccine do not prevent you from getting the flu in the first place, but only reduces your flu symptoms if you do get it..The flu company are the only pharmaceutical company protected by law from law suit, we the tax payers foot the bill for all litigated vaccination related cases,it's about supply and demand, since they get to make new vaccine every single year, they need the demand (mandatory vaccination for HCP), do you know that there is a potential 2.5% Medicare bonus related to increasing employer vaccination rate.// those who think for a minute is ONLY about protecting the public think twice,employees are easily dispensable when they interfere with the bottom line - Profit margin.

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I am new to the post, i did not get to see the final outcome before I replied your initial post. Kindly update me on how you're coping with the yearly vaccination...and by the way please check out www.vaccinerights.com for valuable information.
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Islam does not approve vaccination, in Islam we believe in The Holy Quran - The words of Allah, Allah send message to us through The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) . The Holy Quran said not once, that Allah had created us in perfect shape, so we do not need any vaccination as God has given us a perfect immune system, which through the sickness growing stronger, InshAllah. Anyone who opposes this, oppose Allah.
"The One Who has 'perfected everything' He has created and began the creation of human beings from clay" (Qur'an 32:7)

"Allah is the One who made the Earth a habitat for you, and the sky as a structure, and He designed you, and has perfected your design." (Qur'an 40:64)

"Allah created the heavens and the Earth for a true purpose, He designed you, and has perfected your design. You will all return to Him." (Qur'an 64:3)
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Some people need to be vaccinated because they don't eat healthy or they may have a weak immune system because of certain illnesses that they may have in their system. I don't get the flu vaccination at all, and I am an
ER nurse. I rarely get sick and I personally think that people should have the right to decide for themselves if they want to be vaccinated or not. No one should force you to have medicine injected in your body without your consent. And that is what this topic is about. As a muslim, it is against our religion for someone to force us to take medicine without our consent.
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It started as a strong recommendation,then to coercion, today it's being made MANDATORY and health care personnel(HCP)at majority of acute care hospitals are COMPELLED, FORCED,HARASSED,THREATENED with being fired if they refuse. A nurse was going to sign the so called flu consent form with a note saying "AGAINST MY WILL", my job declined. I am in that battle as we speak. First I put myself in the employer's shoe of the benefits of me getting flu shot, then considering my patient's health. The CDC has an Honor Roll list for hospitals, main requirement to get on the list is 90% HCP vaccination rate,hospitals get rewarded with 2.5% Medicare payments. It was never a religious debate, but CDC has categories of declination/exemption called the Denominator and Numerator HCP. CDC recognized individual belief system to refuse vaccination so they categorize religious exemptions under Numerator and HCP verbal declination is all the employer is required to have, No other documentation is needed. Now the employer turned around requesting for description of your religious doctrine or practice that is contrary to influenza vaccine. Not only the form, you have to produce a letter on official letter head, from your clergy with an explanation of same
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As an ER nurse myself, many nurses caved in under the mounting pressure of been fired and very afraid to loose their job, INFORMED CONSENT that is a precious language to us is QUICKLY out of the window. Many are not even aware of the type of flu shot they got, so I'm all about educating each other to the components of the shot and that we do actually have a right to refuse but only under two circumstances MEDICAL or RELIGIOUS. There are basically 3 types of flu shot - one with eggs, gelatin, formaldehyde and mercury; another one with only formaldehyde (for egg allergy HCP) and lastly only one with preservative free is in phase3 of medical trial. It's about supply and demand, mandating all HCP(supply) Flu shot manufacturers are shielded from law suit(Demand),tax payers pay to defend any shot related suits. How will you like a shot of 25 or 50mcg of mercury in your blood in the name of vaccination?? it's about P4P, so create an Honor Roll for yourself, demand to know the type of shot you're getting, be informed then decide, remember DO NO HARM is not just to your patients, what about your body, over 22 years in the field (HCP) never got either the shot nor the flu, don't even take any Rx pills, I should know my immune system better than any vaccination, what ever happens to Personal Protective Equipment (PPE), Droplets and Universal precautions and the likes - those are the REAL protection from the flu. I am presently awaiting the administration to reply my exemption letter..     
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MY INFLUENZA VACCINATION follow-up NEWS
Thanks to this forum, after my post, a member above, actually reached out to me about facing exact situation I was going through. Based on this member's exchange of information, I was empowered and determined to do something about the situation. Just last week, my facility finally gave me an exemption from being FORCIBLY injected with the influenza vaccination. Many of my coworkers just caved-in under the ultimatum of get it or lose their jobs. I am now campaigning for vaccine safety for healthcare workers, unfortunately for most of us, this year's vaccine missed the target (drifted) so terribly, nonetheless they still forced it on majority of my coworkers and the population at large. The message: Know the flu shot components(all the ingredients) you about to get and keep accurate record of slightest reaction/illness from getting it, and most importantly REPORT it to 18008227967 or visit www.vaers.hhs.gov .  Prevention is always better than cure, but with what? as much as 50mcg of Mercury? Formaldehyde? Gelatin? Eggs? etc preservative flu shots or better still the latest preservative-free flu shot that recently passed the phase 3 and now in its phase 4  of experimentation, and approved by FDA for general population at the mercy of manufacturers to voluntarily report any injuries to the govt.  Allah has created me in the best of form, blessed me for over 22+ yrs working in acute care hospitals without any ailment or flu, the blessings of my natural immunity over the years, along with the prudent usage of the PPE/droplet precautions has proven to be a better prevention for ME than any vaccination made to date. I bet you don't know the type of flu shot you just received! Don't worry over  95% of all the people I asked (majority were hospital workers)  didn't either, so that's how it got started, Allah has done His part, so take very good care of your body the best possible way you know how, if you must get a flu shot let it be an INFORMED SHARED DECISION, educate yourself first, then get the shot. Thanks so much 'lady'
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ASA lady! Thanks for the information. I've got more news and found out a whole lot more about our health care system that i could ever imagined, this vaccination business might just be the beginning, I am probably among about less than 1% of those who put of the fight not to get it in my facility. Do you ever wonder why we still have some many diseases and ailments despite being deemed one of the most, if not the most medically advanced country in the world?   

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