IslamiCity.org Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Religion - Islam > Interfaith Dialogue
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - What we Muslims got from Judaism  What is Islam What is Islam  Donate Donate
  FAQ FAQ  Quran Search Quran Search  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

What we Muslims got from Judaism

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
honeto View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar
Male Islam
Joined: 20 March 2008
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 2487
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote honeto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: What we Muslims got from Judaism
    Posted: 03 December 2012 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by Kayman Kayman wrote:

What I don't understand is how can they be cursed if so many we have was derived from them?Also, the Koran teaches us that God did give his word to Moses. If Jews are following the words of Moses, then how could Allah curse them? It's His word.I'm a very confused Muslim.



Kayman,
Asalam Alykum,
Jews, as we call them now were indeed once the followers of prophets of God like Moses or David or Noah. But when they rejected God and reject prophet Jesus(pbuh) the Messiah, they separated themselves from God due to their rejection to accept Essa-Ibn-Mariam (Jesus). So, due to their trespasses and rejections God cursed them, except those who repented and accepted what God revealed to the prophet. Similarly those (who call thenselves Christians) who elevated Jesus's status from a servant and beloved messenger of God to God, or those who said God has begotten a son (Jesus) only incurred God's wrath upon themselves, unless they repent from their blasphemy.
That is the truth, and for a believer there is no confusion.
I would suggest you read the Quran translation in a language you understand well on a regular basis. There are all the answers in there.
Salam,
Hasan
The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

Back to Top
Matt Browne View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar
Male
Joined: 19 April 2010
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 937
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Browne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2012 at 6:55am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

...it is crystal clear from the Holy Qur'an that the Jews are cursed in this life and the next and the Christians are astray from the Straight Path.


In the 7th century Muslims thought that the Jews were cursed, therefore we can read about this in the Qur'an. There is also the comparison with apes and swines. Fortunately, many Muslims today think differently today and reject anti-semitism. We need the historical context to understand holy texts.

And to answer the general question: Yes, Islam owes Judaism a great deal. Christianity also owes Judaism a great deal. There are numerous examples of Jewish thinking which found its way into other religions.

A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
Back to Top
Abu Loren View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1646
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2012 at 1:06am
Sahih International

Indeed, those who conceal what We sent down of clear proofs and guidance after We made it clear for the people in the Scripture - those are cursed by Allah and cursed by those who curse, 2:159

Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, "We hear and disobey" and "Hear but be not heard" and "Ra'ina," twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], "We hear and obey" and "Wait for us [to understand]," it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few. 4:46

Back to Top
Friendship View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member


Joined: 24 August 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 884
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendship Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2012 at 10:03pm
Assalamu alaika Kayman.

Please do not be confused! The real meaning of lu'ina is the removal of the mercy of Allah from those who disobeyed him. The verse referred to those who did not observe the Sabbath in the time of Prophet David (Dawud) and those who concocted the lie against Jesus son of Maryam that is a son of Allah. It is a general meaning applying to anyone who disobeys his Messenger. The Arabs used it in the time of ignorance to caution their leaders against the practice of injustice.

Friendship
Back to Top
aka2x2 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar
Male
Joined: 12 September 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 446
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aka2x2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2012 at 4:35pm
Allah (swt) created all people and shall judge them according to what He gave them. Quran does not teach to insult Non-Muslims or put a curse on them. Muslims are not the judge and jury of the people of the Book.
Respectfully
aka2x2
Back to Top
Kayman View Drop Down
Starter.
Starter.
Avatar
Male
Joined: 14 October 2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kayman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2012 at 9:14am
What I don't understand is how can they be cursed if so many we have was derived from them?
Also, the Koran teaches us that God did give his word to Moses. If Jews are following the words of Moses, then how could Allah curse them? It's His word.

I'm a very confused Muslim.
Back to Top
Friendship View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member


Joined: 24 August 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 884
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendship Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2012 at 3:08am
Assalamu alaika Abu Loren.

Yes indeed so. We all have to learn the Arabic language and read the appropriate books. I am one of the lucky ones who have learned that language and has the resources and time to read and understand. You just give me a reference.
The door of Mercy of Allah is never closed and is open to all. It is important that we understand the punishment of Allah is Standard and that if any civilization misbehaved it will be the same criterion as during previous Prophets.

Friendship
Back to Top
Abu Loren View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 1646
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2012 at 2:10am
As'alaamu Alaikkum Friendship

I notice that you are trying to 'build bridges' between the Jews, Christians and the Muslims. However, it is crystal clear from the Holy Qur'an that the Jews are cursed in this life and the next and the Christians are astray from the Straight Path.

I suggest you leave everything to Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and concentrate on your own salvation. You cannot carry the sins of another person nor can you carry their sins.

Although all three faiths are knows as the Abrahamaic faith the similiraty ended when the Final Revelation to mankind was given to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh).
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.