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Who are We ? (Revisited)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote m.sumair Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2012 at 9:12pm
Greetings Ron Webb,

Seprating "we" into "us" and "them", its easier said than done. Actually we are at a distance from such radical people. We donot own their actions, they maybe doing this in sheer ignorance or for other agenda (tht has nothng to do with Islam). But keeping a distance is not helping, they do what they want to do and we remain aside thinking/feeling bad about it...than what, they doit again ! and we still remain aside. We are unable to stop them. They sabotage the Religion internally 'Doing things in the name of Islam', but than what we are doing to stop this sabotage. (In my opinion) We have gotten weak in our parctices and teachings of Islam, but we have to cope up fast so that we can rectify this utterness. Its upto us to try n reduce these bad actions.

I say "we" to those who learn and parctise Islam, I never include "them" with "us", "they" normally USE the Religion, or are ignorant of it teachings.

Edited by m.sumair - 22 September 2012 at 9:16pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2012 at 10:12pm

You say "we" as if that one little word can encompass all Muslims.  It can't, or at least it shouldn't.  Before you can take "constructive measures" against the spread of violence and extremism within Islam, you need to stop thinking in terms of a unified "we", so that "you" peaceful Muslims can distance yourselves from "them", the extremists and radicals.

Also, I found this one sentence disturbingly out of step with the rest of your message:

Originally posted by m.sumair m.sumair wrote:

Why we can't ask UN to pass Intrnational Law that no such disgusting act be done against any prophet and to any Reglious scripture.

You seem to want peace, but only on your terms.  That is not peace, but surrender.  If you truly want peace -- if you want the right to believe what you want and live as you choose -- then you must allow others to believe what they want and live as they choose.  That may mean that others will say and do things you find disgusting.  Too bad.  No one has the right not to be disgusted.

Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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     "see pt.7 on pg 4"

Now this question is been bothering me for sometimes now. I am confused at our behaviour, the way we do things, the excuses and sorrys we give. In first place, why we have to do such things that we ended up doing sorrys and excuses. Who are we ? Killing of innocents, destroying the properties and injuring many other, it is not even close to what Islam teaches us. If these acts are done by radicals of Islam than where is this mainstream Muslims. Why we havnt taken any constructive measures so that act of radicals get diminish.

We are Muslims. But than what has happened to us. We are we so weak and fragile, dispersed around the globe that we can't even form a uniformity on the situation at hand. There are around 57 Muslim countries and some significant population of Muslims living around the earth but we are still unable to properly condem the situation. Why we can't ask UN to pass Intrnational Law that no such disgusting act be done against any prophet and to any Reglious scripture.

Islam is a Religion for Peace and we are suppose to represent it...Although maintaing peace is a responsiblity of each human, but we Muslims have a prime responsiblity to promote and maintain the Peace. But unfortunetly our reality is far from what it should really be. What we have been taught by Islam, and look at what we are doing...so
Who are we ? Where are "WE" ?

Edited by m.sumair - 04 October 2012 at 5:13am
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