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Ron Webb
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Posted: 17 September 2012 at 4:46pm |
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How can this not be shirk?
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Abu Loren
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Indeed it is shirk. There is a muslim sect known as the 'Sufi' who pray to saints, Mohammed (pbuh) and dead people. |
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agreed,
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Those were just statement, not an action. Words by right is prelude of action. If this words considered Shirk therefore the people who have acted upon it too fall even greater. So it is up to the eye of the beholder.
In my opinion all of them, statements and actions are not Shirk per se just over zealous reaction. |
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Ghazzali
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May peace be on the guided ones.
"Narrated By Abu Huraira : I said to the Prophet "May my parents be sacrificed for you!" (Bukhari vol.1, book 12, hadith 711) There are many hadiths like this where many sahabas (may Allah be pleased with them) uttered this statement. Firstly, it's a cultural thing among arabs. They make this statement to show respect to someone. Secondly, sacrificing life or family or wealth for Rasul Allah (pbuh) is ultimately sacrificing for Allah. It is Allah's command to be at Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) 's service So, it is not shirk. Allah knows best. |
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The world is a dangerous place to live in, not because of the bad people, but because of the good people who does not do anything about it.
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Edited by Usmani - 25 September 2012 at 3:20am |
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Engage your self in good deeds,otherswise yours nafs will engage you in bad deeds
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Ron Webb
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It was obviously a prayer, addressed to Muhammad. That's not shirk?
There is a world of difference between sacrificing oneself (but not volunteering one's parents -- that is twisted!) to protect the life of one's Prophet and commander, versus sacrficing oneself for someone already dead.
You mean they are being insincere?
Only if you see Muhammad as a partner to Allah. As I keep reminding Muslims, Muhammad (peace be upon him) is dead. He can no longer be offended, and does not need protection.
While he was alive may have been true, but common sense should tell you that one cannot provide service to a dead man. |
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Mr. Ron Web, Br. Ghazzali is correct, attack on Muhammad (S) integrity is attack on Allah�s Deen (Islam) that is why Nasrullah says: �are for your [Muhammad (s)] dignity, veneration and honor�. He is defending Allah�s Deen (Islam) by scarifies every thing that Allah (S) give him to defend Muhammad�s (S) integrity and not Muhammad (S); they knew he is dead. The Prophet (S) said: �If you obey me you already Obey Allah (S)� In other words, he leave a message (Islam...God�s laws) to live by and in following it is following him because he was an exemplar of Islam; His wife describe him as the walking Qur�an. Nasrallah and others knew of the campaign the Masons are waging against Islam so that their call. TNC |
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LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL...NO MORE LIES!
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