Which type of music do you like to listen

Abu Loren wrote: MUSIC IS HARAM!

I think there is better way to put it. How about: "I find it songs distracting me in my devotion to God so I refrain from it".

OR

"I heard that there is a ruling from number of Alims that considered songs as haram, I encouraged you to find out if it is true".

What do you think bro, sound better?

Caringheart wrote: � Music, singing and dancing is very popular throughout the Muslim world. Belly dancing, praticularly comes to mind. Contrary to popular belief, not all muslims are god fearing and pious people. Millions of Muslims are apostate, atheists etc. And millions more do not practice the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh).

If your words are correct then even the earliest Muslims were apostate?� not true believers?It seems according to what you say then, that there are many who call themselves Muslim who are not true believers.It raises an interesting question.So how then does one distinguish an unbeliever?Obviously being a Muslim does not make one automatically a "believer", just as being a Christian, or a Jewish person, does not make one an unbeliever.Yet if Muslims were to come into rule, would they make this distinction?� Would the Muslim unbeliever be treated the same as any other considered to be an unbeliever, or would all Muslims be treated as believers?

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If your words are correct then even the earliest Muslims were apostate?� not true believers?

What are you talking about? The earliest true Muslims who believed and followed the Prophet abstained from all forms of music and singing. There were also non-believers who carried on the tradition of music and singing.

It seems according to what you say then, that there are many who call themselves Muslim who are not true believers.

A person who calls himself a Muslim is not automatically a believer, a believer is a person who has submitted him/her self to Allah and implemented the five pillars of Islam in their lives. Also to put simply a Muslim who does not pray five times a day is not technically a Muslim.

It raises an interesting question.So how then does one distinguish an unbeliever?Obviously being a Muslim does not make one automatically a "believer", just as being a Christian, or a Jewish person, does not make one an unbeliever.

I don't know why you have a hard time understanding this. Not everyone who are born into a Christian family are true Christian. A true Christian believes in Jesus and goes church, pray etc. The same in Islam.

I'm not going to answer the Muslim rule rubbish.

Caringheart wrote: I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I just watched a program on the Moors of Spain and music was very much a part of the Islamic culture there.  In fact it was part of the arts which they took pride in.  So why not now?  Why, or when, or how, do you think this tradition changed?  Was it simply a tradition and part of the culture of Spain which the Muslims adopted?

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I just watched a program on the Moors of Spain and music was very much a part of the Islamic culture there.  In fact it was part of the arts which they took pride in.  So why not now?  Why, or when, or how, do you think this tradition changed?  Was it simply a tradition and part of the culture of Spain which the Muslims adopted?