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    Posted: 14 August 2005 at 9:54pm

So you are looking for  "Muhammad" in this Surah, well the name does not appear but it does mention the night journey in which ahadith speaks of:

"Narrated Jabir bin �Abdullah that he heard Allah�s Apostle saying, "When the people of Quraish did not believe me (i.e. the story of my Night Journey ), I stood up in Al-Hijr and Allah displayed Jerusalem in front of me, and I began describing it to them while I was looking at it." Bukhari vol.5:226 p.142"

 

During the Night Journey: When I [Mohammed] left him (i.e. Moses) he wept. Someone asked him, �What makes you weep?� Moses said, �I weep because after me there has been sent ( as Prophet ) a young man whose followers will enter Paradise in greater numbers than my followers.� Bukhari vol.5:227 p.146

 

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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

Well perhaps you can tell since Surah 17 (The Night Journey)refers to Muhammad whose is the servant of Allah. Obviously when this Surah was revealed to Muhammad it was also revealed along w ith his vision in the Night Journey. Now if you are you looking for specifics then I can list those as well.

We are looking for Islam's "prophets" name in this sura...

Where is it....?

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Well perhaps you can tell since Surah 17 (The Night Journey)refers to Muhammad whose is the servant of Allah. Obviously when this Surah was revealed to Muhammad it was also revealed along w ith his vision in the Night Journey. Now if you are you looking for specifics then I can list those as well.
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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

Applie pie are you referring to Shu'aib?

No.

Tell us why you think sura 17 is referring to Islam's prophet, when his name is not even mentioned anywhere in the entire sura...

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Applie pie are you referring to Shu'aib?
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Salaam,

Here is my response to you Deus:

First we should note that the sacred mosque was the the Qibla which was Makkah, which was aforetime Jerusalem but since the fall out with the Jews it was told that the Qibla which one prays now is Makkah. Beit-ullah which is the Kabbah or which surrounds it is the sacred mosque. The fasrthest mosque in which the Night Journey speaks of is the damaged temple which is in Jerusalem.

How we know about the Sacred mosque is:

It is reported that the Prophet Muhammad said, "There are only three mosques to which you should embark on a journey: the sacred mosque (Mecca, Saudi Arabia), this mosque of mine (Madinah, Saudi Arabia), and the mosque of Al-Aqsa (Jerusalem)."

 

Also another Islamic website offers this:

The Arab grammarians classify masjid as "ism makan", i.e., "name of location"; it indicates the place where an action takes place. Masjid being derived from the root sa-ja-da (to prostrate), it means "place of prostration". Since a place of worship is a place where believers prostrate to God, "masjid" is a general term to designate any place of worship without any religious distinction. Later, this word was used to designate Islamic places of worship in particular, i.e., the mosques.

The Prophet's(P) night journey was from "the inviolable place of worship" (al-Masjid al-Haram) to "the farthest place of worship" (al-Masjid al-Aqsa). The former is certainly located in Makkah, but what about the latter? The reference to Allah blessing its surroundings (... whose precincts We did bless) suggests a location in the "Holy Land" (cf. 21:81; 7:137; 34:18). Neal Robinson states:

The [Muslim] tradition which identifies it [i.e., al-Masjid al-Aqsa] with the Temple Mount in Jerusalem makes admirable sense in view of the fact that the 'place of worship' (masjid) whose destruction is evoked in v. 7 [i.e., 17:7] is clearly the Temple.[2]

 

 

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Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahiwabarakatuh.
Actually, I'm surprised with apple pie and deus questions. I think I had heard hadith about Prophet(peace be upon him), had been brought from Mecca to Aqsa's mosque then ascended to meet Allah. But I'm not sure who was a 'rawi' for this hadith. InsyaAllah I will try to find that.

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Subhan'llah for both your questions forgive me tonight as I'm not feeling too well, I will answer both your questions so look for them either this Saturday or Sunday.
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