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really

read this and tell me if you agree

[2.135] And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right
course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he
was not one of the polytheists.
[2.136] Say: We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to
us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and
Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and
(in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord, we do not make
any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.
[2.137] If then they believe as you believe in Him, they are indeed on the
right course, and if they turn back, then they are only in great opposition,
so Allah will suffice you against them, and He is the Hearing, the
Knowing.
[2.138] (Receive) the baptism of Allah, and who is better than Allah in
baptising? and Him do we serve.
[2.139] Say: Do you dispute with us about Allah, and He is our Lord and
your Lord, and we shall have our deeds and you shall have your deeds,
and we are sincere to Him.


[2.140] Nay! do you say that Ibrahim and Ismail and Yaqoub and
the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Are you better knowing or Allah?
And who is more unjust than he who conceals a testimony that he has
from Allah? And Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.
[2.141] This is a people that have passed away; they shall have what they
earned and you shall have what you earn, and you shall not be called
upon to answer for what they did.
[2.142] The fools among the people will say: What has turned them from
their qiblah which they had? Say: The East and the West belong only to
Allah; He guides whom He likes to the right path.
[2.143] And thus We have made you a medium (just) nation that you may
be the bearers of witness to the people and (that) the Apostle may be a
bearer of witness to you; and We did not make that which you would have
to be the qiblah but that We might distinguish him who follows the
Apostle from him who turns back upon his heels, and this was surely hard
except for those whom Allah has guided aright; and Allah was not going
to make your faith to be fruitless; most surely Allah is Affectionate,
Merciful to the people.
[2.144] Indeed We see the turning of your face to heaven, so We shall
surely turn you to a qiblah which you shall like; turn then your face
towards the Sacred Mosque, and wherever you are, turn your face towards
it, and those who have been given the Book most surely know that it is
the truth from their Lord; and Allah is not at all heedless of what they do.
[2.145] And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book
every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of
their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if
you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then
you shall most surely be among the unjust.
[2.146] Those whom We have given the Book recognize him as they
recognize their sons, and a party of them most surely conceal the truth
while they know (it).
[2.147] The truth is from your Lord, therefore you should not be of the
doubters.
[2.148] And every one has a direction to which he should turn, therefore
hasten to (do) good works; wherever you are, Allah will bring you all
together; surely Allah has power over all things.
[2.149] And from whatsoever place you come forth, turn your face
towards the Sacred Mosque; and surely it is the very truth from your Lord,
and Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.
[2.150] And from whatsoever place you come forth, turn your face
towards the Sacred Mosque; and wherever you are turn your faces
towards it, so that people shall have no accusation against you, except
such of them as are unjust; so do not fear them, and fear Me, that I may
complete My favor on you and that you may walk on the right course.
[2.151] Even as We have sent among you an Apostle from among you who
recites to you Our communications and purifies you and teaches you the
Book and the wisdom and teaches you that which you did not know.
[2.152] Therefore remember Me, I will remember you, and be thankful to
Me, and do not be ungrateful to Me.


[3.59] Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.
[3.60] (This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of the disputers.
[3.61] But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.
[3.62] Most surely this is the true explanation, and there is no god but Allah; and most surely Allah-- He is the Mighty, the Wise.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Colin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2005 at 2:28pm

You have accused me of being against Islam, of being a nazi, a racist and a bigot. Please read any of the 600 plus posts I have made in the last four years and see if you can find any evidence to support your wild accusations.

We have a saying in Britain: "Empty vessels make the most noise".

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2005 at 2:38pm

Why isn't she banned yet honestly? She obviously cannot read properly, is wilingly manipulating what I and others have said (is that manipulation due to maliciousness, or pure illiteracy I am not sure), is obviously ignorant about her own faith as she sins on a constant basis here. I don't even know why we give this being the light of day, it obviously doesn't deserve to be respected a member of an enlightened community.

Jibreel you are not a dishonour to the Ummah, but you disgrace Islam through your hatred and bigotry, and you basically shame all of Allah's creations. Live in your ignorance.

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you avoid the questions

Why do you guys come to islamic forums if you hate ALLAH, his prophets
(pbta) islam, muslims and the Qur'an and refute about the last day or
even been judged by allah for your present actions?

is it that your scared to death of islam, muslims and allah, and that you
think you can destroy your maker and blame him for your self hatred and
guilt mistakes which attract you guys here to seek a single fault in a
believer to justify your sins?
        but this is SATANs way according to all books, and you said
you will never go to hell and cursed the Qur'an in you others posts by
claiming your own faith is stronger then ALLAHS word in the Qur'an!

the nazis did indeed have this opinion, also mixed there occult up with
genealogical theories in Paul's Gospels and even met with the Pope about
it;, they put theories of race into practice claiming there categorized race
was above others and a pure one, and all this was through orthodox
jewish talmudic thinking by Hitler himself who only racist jews refer to a
non jew rather then his so called Jihad against allah, like yours..

i have found nothing in your posts to support that you come here for any
other intention, and you agreed to all these ideologies, maybe you should
study them closer to learn how they only bring destruction?

so if my posts insult you, then tell my how orthodox jewish talmudic
nazis do not insult you when they claim a faith such that a inbreed jewish
blood race should oppress the earth and there word is better then
Allah's like you did before.

Why dont' you just tell us what God is it that your worship if it is not
ALLAH,?



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Colin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2005 at 11:28pm

I will ask you one more time. Can you show a post I have made where I have said I was against Islam?

It's as easy as that Jibreel. You show me the evidence you have to back up your claims or carry on making them and let every member of this forum know that you have joined this forum purely to cause trouble.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jibreel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 August 2005 at 11:10pm
read all your posts and tell me if you have ever been for islam?

share with us all the things islam contributed to the west?

it is as easy as this , start anwsering my questions for once?
you certainly did not respect the qur'an.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Colin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 August 2005 at 12:02am

You have accused me of being against Islam of being a racist, bigot and a nazi, Thus, the onus is squarely on you to back up what you have said or simply desist from making such ridiculous statements.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote b95000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 August 2005 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by jibreel jibreel wrote:

read all your posts and tell me if you have ever been for islam?

share with us all the things islam contributed to the west?

it is as easy as this , start anwsering my questions for once?
you certainly did not respect the qur'an.


Wow, this one sounds reasonable Jibreel.  Perhaps if you'd not made so many scurrilous 'nazi' and blantantly ludicrous 'racism' charges against reasonable people, we'd actually be able to have some interesting dialogue on these boards between Muslims and non-Muslims...

Is there an interest in that?
Bruce
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
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