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    Posted: 09 August 2005 at 1:54pm
If you have been reading some threads of late, a poster called Jibreel has accused me falsely of being a racist. I am creating this thread for Jibreel to show all members of the community this "supposed" racism, with explicit examples of this "Racism", not innuendo and manipulation of my texts. Also it is also up to the community to see the ignorance of this poster, and her inability to read properly. So I URGE Jibreel to show me this "Racism".
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Originally posted by Private Message <strong>Sent by :</strong> nico Private Message Sent by : nico wrote:


Sent by : nico
Sent : 09 August 2005 at 2:01pm

I have sent a PM to the moderator about your actions...and I have
created a thread for you to express in explicitly clear terms how I am a
racist. If you do not participate in that thread, then you surely have NO
right to call me a racist if you cannot prove it.


GET READY!

I've dealt with ppl like you



you dealt with ppl like me before?    and what kind of people is that,
the people you called non whites?

If i said the same thing to you i would be racist wouldn't' i ?

But your the only one around here with these views, and you just did it
again..., come to think of it, from this post, it sounds like you will keep
doing this again because you really do not have respect for certain
people you described., people which you referred to as non whites in
your other posts that you never met, and who you openly stated you
HATE, and now claim you delt with before and are "people like me"?.

Have you noticed that not one muslim here ever expressed such things
like you do?, and its easy to spot people pretending they are muslims, so
why do you hate (in your own words) non whites so much?

Nico, who ever you are, You and i are not alike at all., get over it
_ i never said i hated you like yet you stated you hated certain people.
_ i never judged you by appearance, yet you compared muslims as non
whites to Europeans with me, i am a European muslim by the way.

So why don't you explain yourself if you claim that your actions are NOT
RACIST ATTACKS at the DARK, especially when you go out of your way to
argue about the very hate crimes you feed off.

You have not succeeded to intimidate or scare anyone with your viciously
angry posts, its you that is angry not us,
And by your attempting to fit others into the little imaginary world in your
head as non whites you fear, you openly exposed the real problem here
and its not anyone elses problem but yours..,the only reasons i post this
at all is because it is healthy for muslims to share the truth since it adds
faith to our faith..

nice dreams


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you dealt with ppl like me before? and what kind of people is that,
the people you called non whites?

No a category of people that if I said outloud would probably get me banned...lets just say ignorant pretentious people like yourself.

If i said the same thing to you i would be racist wouldn't' i ?

No bc nothing there had to do with race, learn how to read.

But your the only one around here with these views, and you just did it
again...,

How is it that the moderators are allowing this OBVIOUS illiteracy continue? Its shocking to the nth degree.


Have you noticed that not one muslim here ever expressed such things
like you do?, and its easy to spot people pretending they are muslims, so
why do you hate (in your own words) non whites so much?

Since you have NOT proved my racism, please tell me what in God's name are you talking about. Frankly lets raise the stakes a little here, are you wiling to swear on the Qu'ran that you can honestly believe I am a racist, and then able to show thme that?

Nico, who ever you are, You and i are not alike at all.,

Allah Akbar my friend...Allah Akbar, if I were like you I would have committed suicide a LONG time ago.

_ i never said i hated you like yet you stated you hated certain people.

I never said i hated you until you starting lying, and trying to show me as a person I am not.

_ i never judged you by appearance, yet you compared muslims as non
whites to Europeans with me, i am a European muslim by the way.

SHOW ME THE QUOTE...why are you refusing to show the evidence? Where have I judged on apperance? You don't know what the hell you are talking about.


Look its simple Jibreel...ask yourself why no one else is here supporting your stance? Simple...bc they know ur wrong...where' the Ummah when you need it eh Jibreel? Soak in the puddle of intelligence I call ignorance. Go and sin that's what you do best you lying, manipulative, fake Muslim.

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Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

J-you dealt with ppl like me before? and what kind of
people is that, ?

the people you called non whites?
nico, No a category of people that if I said outloud would probably get me
banned...lets just say ignorant pretentious people like yourself.

when all else fails you try to call people "names", wow that sounds
like a smart idea...maybe they will buy it SINCE it worked on you.

was it not GW Bush that called americans FAT to get his ratings up?
Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

J- If i said the same thing to you i would be racist
wouldn't' i ?
nico, No bc nothing there had to do with race, learn how to read.

i read above that you like to put people in a category, Hitler was a
famouse racist who did the same thing, should you judge peoples
character by a category based on your own opinion altogether seems very
racist by the definition., the categories you have made so far was
classifying Europeans as whites and muslims as non whites, correct?

if you did not mean to be this ignorant then why not excuse it as a
mistake and correct your self?

UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR STAND BY IT.
Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

How is it that the moderators are allowing this OBVIOUS
illiteracy continue? Its shocking to the nth degree.
i agree, look
at all your posts, you should travel a bit and see the world, the U.S. is not
the only country in the world, you would be surprised to what you can
learn from others.
Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

J-Have you noticed that not one muslim here ever
expressed such things ?

like you do?, and its easy to spot people pretending they are muslims, so
?
why do you hate (in your own words) non whites so much?
nico-Since you have NOT proved my racism, please tell me what in God's
name are you talking about. Frankly lets raise the stakes a little here, are
you wiling to swear on the Qu'ran that you can honestly believe I am a
racist, and then able to show thme that?

You ask me to prove something to you that you yourself allready proved 4
times and also added to the fire? you admited to hating others, its done.

you would of corrected yourself if it was not TRUE by now rather
then to stoop even lower by the sad use of name calling people.

I believe you can change, but that is your responsibility to take back the
things you said before you can face this, like the way you classified
muslims as non whites when islam introduced equal rights for all must be
hard for you if you really hate people.
Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

Nico, who ever you are, You and i are not alike at all.,
Allah Akbar my friend...Allah Akbar, if I were like you I would have
committed suicide a LONG time ago.

well, it is sad to hear your are suicidal, fortunatly this proves who is the
real threat to the publics safety since you admit here now that its a idea
of yours.

i wonder if you get deported for this in the U.K. of A,

Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

J_ i never said i hated you like yet you stated you hated
certain people.

I never said i hated you until you starting lying, and trying to show me as
a person I am not.

was it something that you posted that upset you again?,
Admiting that you hate anyone only proves that you have the problem
here.

Hatred is a evil Intense and animosity feeling towards someone, racism is
hatred towards certain groups of people catergorized by the bigot, so
why bother to defend yourself here of racism when you just stooped
lower?

Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

J- i never judged you by appearance, yet you compared
muslims as non whites to Europeans with me, i am a European muslim by
the way.
nico-SHOW ME THE QUOTE...why are you refusing to show the evidence?
Where have I judged on apperance? You don't know what the hell you are
talking about. .

ok
Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

If you want to get rid of us non-Muslims. then
surely you would support a racist wanting to get rid of all non-whites off
a forum about Europe?
sounds very racist to me,
explain how you came to the conclussion of this comparason with europe
to muslims as been non whites if islam is a faith?
Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

Look its simple Jibreel...ask yourself why no one else is
here supporting your stance? Simple...bc they know ur wrong...where' the
Ummah when you need it eh Jibreel? Soak in the puddle of intelligence I
call ignorance. Go and sin that's what you do best you lying,
manipulative, fake Muslim.


I had no idea you wanted support from your friends here, i have ALLAH as
my witness, i am believer remember?.

BUT, this is a very interesting post you just made, because it says
something satanic about you if you realy knew Islam that well.

for 1, You claim to know the Islam better then muslims,
Iblis aka SATAN also made this statement in front of ALLAH when he
showed his envy for Adam pbuh; ( Adam means MANKIND in Hebrew) and
ALLAH cursed him and all who follow his ways until the last day for this.

Some have said that the greatest trick Satan ever played was to fool them
into believing that he never existed., if they believed in anything at this
point.

Islam existed before man kind., submission to allah is performed by every
galaxy upon galaxy and the life forms in all the worlds between them and
they all bow to allah's will; all except which are used as fuel for the hell
fire.

even magicians in the crafts know that they have to be rightious in order
for the universal laws to take effect, and there is nothing they can do to
fool allah., like we all heard with Moses (pbuh) and the magicians who
ended up bowing in islam.

So if you claim to know ISLAM better then muslims, why would you play
Satan and attack the believers if you knew better then to harm allah's
own? your allah's enemy by saying this.

To know the truth and not live up to your part by name calling others and
using racial slurs etc etc. sounds like a very unclean spirit to me.

HELL IS A REAL PLACE NICO,
Quote 2.90 Evil is that for which
they have sold their souls-- that they should deny what Allah has
revealed, out of envy that Allah should send down of His grace on
whomsoever of His servants He pleases; so they have made themselves
deserving of wrath upon wrath, and there is a disgraceful punishment for
the unbelievers.

2.109 Many of the followers of the Book wish that they could turn you
back into unbelievers after your faith, out of envy from themselves, (even)
after the truth has become manifest to them; but pardon and forgive, so
that Allah should bring about His command; surely Allah has power over
all things.

3.19 Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the
Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had
come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in
the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.


Who do you worship if your not a muslim and claim to know Islam better?

you recomened i commit suicide, hate you and all the evil below, while i
recomend you repent soon, very soon, for the things you say becuase
hell is all your asking for in life with this anger of yours.

You problems are not with me, but with allah directly if your telling the
truth about your knwoledge of islam.

So why not come to Islam in peace instead of fighting muslims about it,
or is ittht you prefere another religion because you have that idea that
islam is about non whites again?

i would like to know what you think about that?


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sounds very racist to me,
explain how you came to the conclussion of this comparason with europe
to muslims as been non whites if islam is a faith?

How does it sound racist if I was comparing what you said that only Muslims should post on here, with what a white supremacist would say on a forum of Europe. Only a white should post about a white continent. See this how you hit urself in the foot, bc the one here is the real "racist" is you not I because you acted like one. That is what I was saying...i have some advice. GO LEARN HOW TO READ.


Here read what I wrote again:

 

Quote If you want to get rid of us non-Muslims. then
surely you would support a racist wanting to get rid of all non-whites off
a forum about Europe?

Where did I say I was that racist, where did I say that there were no whites in Islam?

Jibreell do us all a favour, and shut it.

 

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Jibreel,

To understand what nico wrote you'll have to understand an advanced concept like an 'analogy.'  Futhermore you'd have to understand Nico's particular analogy and how discussing someone else's racism is not itself, per se, racism.  It's certainly no proof of such.  Figure it out man!

Main Entry: anal�o�gy

Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will prob. agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin -- compare HOMOLOGY
synonym see LIKENESS
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Originally posted by nico nico wrote:

How does it sound racist if I was
comparing what you said that only Muslims should post on here, with
what a white supremacist would say on a forum of Europe. Only a
white should post about a white continent. See this how you hit urself in
the foot, bc the one here is the real "racist" is you not I because you acted
like one. That is what I was saying...i have some advice. GO LEARN HOW
TO READ.


i am on the floor now laughing., sorry i can not help it.

Comparing anyone to white supremacist when they asked you why you
came to there forums when you hate them does indeed show your racist,
Especially when they tried to help you deal with the issues you have with
coming here in the first place. and hate is a terrible issue.

And, if your not a racist, then explain how your comparisons fit in
different forums or different people to white supremacist or non whites
etc.?

Homophobes go to homosexual forums to attack homosexuals the same
way you do muslims here, same exact reasons, hate, phoebias, and denial
of there motives, so if a homosexual ever asked you why you go to there
forums if you have such issues about it, would you then compare them to
white supremacist or a racist pro non white forum? yet you do with
muslims, why is that yo think race has anything to do with a religion?

i chose my religion and you choose yours., its nothing new that non
believers break there treaties and attack others because they envy them
for there faith, or that it took 500 years for europe during the dark ages
to accept from Islam that the earth was round.

Islam influenced the West, the West did not and can not Influence Islam
when it comes to Peace treaties, equal rights and freedom of speech.

And if you are so curious about Islam on the other hand why not embrace
ALLAH? but you rather not answer my question as to why you embraced
your own enemy, SATAN?

why did you not answer my question before,
do you worship ALLAH or SATAN.

You can not have both, Jesus (pbuh) said that.

Matt.6 [24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the
one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the
other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Do not worship other then ALLAH, not the mountains, jews or jerusalem
is to be worshiped.

John.4 [20] Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in
Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
[21] Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye
shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
[22] Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for
salvation is of the Jews.
[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall
worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to
worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit
and in truth.

Math 15 and Mark.7 [9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for
doctrines the commandments of men.

Matt.4 [8] Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high
mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory
of them;
[9] And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall
down and worship me.
[10] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

John.9 [31] Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man
be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.


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Originally posted by b95000 b95000 wrote:

Jibreel,
To understand what nico wrote you'll have to understand an advanced
concept like an 'analogy.'� Futhermore you'd have to understand
Nico's particular analogy and how discussing someone else's racism is
not itself, per se, racism.� It's certainly no proof of
such.� Figure it out man!

   yeah i figured it out man, and it was really easy.
Why else would anyone go to any forums with such 'hatred' and
'contempt' for others like you guys do, and to cry and complain about it
too. could this mean that you are both racist and bigots

While everyone is welcomed to all "muslim forums" to learn about islam,
you guys came he to teach us about you, what a twist, its like a flash back
in Germany during WW2.

Racist-Bigot;
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.


If you can not live in the world with others then what does that say about
you and your health here? /FONT]

Racism is a disease.

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