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haris30432 wrote: Well, you have really shot yourself in the foot here, because Khalifa translated the word as referring to literal death! "He is the One who puts you to death during the night, and knows even the smallest of your actions during the day. He resurrects you every morning, until your life span is fulfilled, then to Him is your ultimate return. He will then inform you of everything you had done." It seems that the "messenger of God" was inconsistent.     Its true that he used the word death in the verse.God teaches us that Sleep is temporary death and waking up is ressurection.This is why he put the word "death" and "ressurects" in his translation.   Death and Resurrection: Every Day* [6:60] He is the One who puts you to death during the night, and knows even the smallest of your actions during the day. He resurrects you every morning, until your life span is fulfilled, then to Him is your ultimate return. He will then inform you of everything you had done.

Obviously, it is not a literal death.  In the same sense, when Jesus was raised, he was not literally dead. 

I showed you several translations which show that the verse has always been interpreted as not being in the past tense, until the arrival of the self-proclaimed "messenger" RK.  You tried to show that RK was right by using an internet translator.  When you were once again refuted, you resorted to attacking the translators for different wordings, as if this somehow proves your initial assertion!  How silly you are!  The last part you wrote is hilarious!  "Dont just put the whole verse coz it will just pick up any translation from the web and give that as a result.I always got "Was" in the result"!    This only shows that you are shabby researcher.  To rely on internet translators is obviously not the way to go, as I have shown. 

Like ive repeated many times already, uve only presented translations which are different in interpretations and understandings to prove that RK is wrong.Internet Translators are only one of the many sources to verify, they are certainly not the only one and im fully aware of that and just becoz the majority believes or interpretes differently from a person doesnt make him or her wrong.Some of the translations say "will believe" and some "must believe".Therefore,how can they be any more reliable than internet translators ?And you have not refuted anything.You chose to disregard the proof presented and called them unreliable simply becoz u dont know how to effectively use internet translators.The different wordings in the translations shows different interpretations and understandings.I did not attack the translations ,it is you who called them "unclear and ambiguous" and admitted that they have errors which was very surprising since you called them "reputed" and tried to present them as ur proof initially. So since youve yourself admitted that they have errors and are unclear and ambiguous,i dont see how they prove RK wrong.And also i never said that this somehow proves RK right but neither do they disprove him.The bottom line is that you have failed to present any substantial proof to prove RK's translation wrong.So dont claim that uve proven RK's translation wrong.

Ok i agree .So what??!Does that prove anything???

Again, you are only speculating.  It is perfectly possible that some people would still refuse to believe in him.  That has been the case before.  Weren't there unbelievers among the Jews, even after they witnessed the miracles performed by Moses?  We could ask the same question.  Why wouldn't they have believed?

Well one of the major purposes of jesus's return is to prove to the POB that he is still alive.And the majority of the so called scholars believe that everyone of the POB will believe in him after his second coming.So on what basis are u saying that there will still be some unbelievers amoung the Jews and christians after his descend ?!!!!!!Check out the below.

Ali Ibn Ibrahim relates from Shahr Ibn Havshab: ... �THE PROPHET �ISA (AS) WILL DESCEND TO EARTH BEFORE DOOMSDAY. THUS THERE WILL BE NONE FROM AMONG THE JEWS AND NAZARENES WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN HIM BEFORE DEATH (BEFORE THE PROPHET �ISA (AS) DIES OR BEFORE ANY FROM AMONG THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS DIE). THE PROPHET �ISA (AS) WILL PERFORM THE PRAYER (SALAT) BEHIND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS). Hajjaj asked: �What are you saying? How do you know this?!� �It is a hadith,� I said. �I heard this hadith from Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Husayn Ibn Ali Ibn Abu Talib!� At that, he said, �I swear you have heard it from the most accurate source!�

(Qummi Commentary, Vol. 1, p. 158)

So there u have it!Plus your conclusion would make 7 out of the 9 reputed  translations that you presented to be completely wrong as they clearly say that EVERYONE of the jews and christians will believe in Jesus before his death.

Pickthall: There is not one of the People of the Scripture but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them -

Shakir: And there is not one of the followers of the Book but most certainly believes in this before his death, and on the day of resurrection he (Isa) shall be a witness against them.

Arberry: There is not one of the People of the Book but will assuredly believe in him before his death, and on the Resurrection Day he will be a witness against them.

Bewley: There is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before he dies; and on the Day of Rising he will be a witness against them.

Palmer: And there shall not be one of the people of the Book but shall believe in him before his death; and on the day of judgment he shall be a witness against them.

Sale: And there shall not be one of those who have received the scriptures, who shall not believe in him, before his death; and on the day of resurrection he shall be a witness against them.

Asad: Yet there is not one of the followers of earlier revelation who does not, at the moment of his death, grasp the truth about Jesus; and on the Day of Resurrection he [himself] shall bear witness to the truth against them.

Hilarious!  Either God took his life (i.e. killed him) or He actually just raised him up alive.  The latter makes more sense, as why would God kill His own prophet?  Why didn't He do that with the other prophets and messengers who were killed by the unbelievers? 

God terminating ones life does not essentially mean that he killed the person.What nonsense u utter!If that was the case all the time, u should then say GOD killed all his prophets!!Jesus's soul was simply raised and his body was left to appear alive to the disbelievers.They tortured and crucified a soulless body which appeared to be alive.Why is this so difficult to  imagine??!That wud seem more logical and more convincing to anyone than the claim that GOD raised Jesus's body and soul together to heaven and then he brought down another body of man who looks exactly like him and put him on the cross to be crucified and tortured or whatever.

Oh well he proved he was sent by GOD supported by a miracle in the Quran but those who chose not to see it due to nothing but EGO and ignorance cannot and will not ever see the truth.And he did not change anything in the Quran.He only exposed the corruptions that some people did with the Quran by GOD's leave.Ofcourse the corrupters will not accept it and accuse him of corrupting it,not very surprising at all!They like many from the previous generations are stuck in their innovations, false prohibitions and idolization of religious scholars and messengers.Not a single person who claimed  messengership after Prophet Muhammad,advocated the worship Of GOD alone or upholding the Quran alone except Rashad Khalifa.Many people who have become submitters today do not believe in him just becoz of the math miracle but also based on what he preached.This man was the only man of his time,after Prophet Muhammad who advocated the worship of GOD alone in its perfect and pure form.As clearly mentioned in the Quran,he reminded people to devote their Salats,fasting,Hajj,Zakat etc ,their religion as a whole to GOD alone.He told people not to mention any other names beside Allah's name in their salats,he  reminded people to follow the Quranic instructions and pay the Zakat on the day of receiveing income and not one time in an year thereby denying the constant flow of money to the poor and making them wait for a whole year for their right ,Zakat which is the poors' HAQ(right).He reminded people to uphold Allah's words alone  ie the Quran alone and not disregard it as this was the same mistake that was committed by those who received the scripture before.They also claimed to follow the scripture but they were infact like many today upholding the opinions and teachings of their scholars besides the actual word of GOD.He did not seek money or fame for whatever he was doing.This man simply qualified in all the Quranic criterias of a messenger ,he was supported with a miracle,he advocated the worship of GOD alone and sought no wages.

                   False Messengers
                   Incapable of Preaching
                   the Worship of God ALONE*

[26:210] The devils can never reveal this.

*26:210 A false messenger is a messenger of Satan, for he is the fabricator of the most horrendous lie. Such a messenger can never denounce idolatry, or preach the worship of God ALONE.

[30:30] Therefore, you shall devote yourself to the religion of strict monotheism. Such is the natural instinct placed into the people by GOD. Such creation of GOD will never change. This is the perfect religion, but most people do not know.

             Rejecting The Messengers: A Tragic Human Trait*

*36:13-27 God's messengers have proof, advocate God alone, and do not ask for money.

[36:30] How sorry is the people's condition! Every time a messenger went to them, they always ridiculed him.

*36:30 If the messenger presents solid proof of messengership, advocates the worship of God alone, and does not ask us for money, why should we not believe?

The Greatest Criterion*
 [39:45] When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.*

Obviously, it is not a literal death.  In the same sense, when Jesus was raised, he was not literally dead. 

Yeah if u take it totally out of context.

Oh this is such nonsense.  By saying that Muhammad (pbuh) had no idea there was a code when there was is pure heresy.  I wonder what Muhammad (pbuh) was thinking when God revealed this verse:

52:34 "Let them then produce a recital like unto it,- If (it be) they speak the truth!"

He must have been wondering what this meant (as you believe this is referring to the code).  Imagine him reciting this verse, challenging the unbelievers to produce something like the Quran, but not actually understanding the challenge himself.  This is why RK was a liar and a heretic.  He essentially says that God purposely hid somethings about the Quran from His beloved messenger, to reveal it 1400 years after.  Pure nonsense.

There is no nonsense in this.Nonsense is thinking that GOD would reveal a mathematical code to the Prophet and his people when actually there were no proper numbering system during his tym.Prophet Muhammad made no challenges it was GOD who made the challenge in the Quran.And its not just verse 52:34,you should also ask what Muhammad was thinking when GOD revealed the mysterious initials in 29chapters,when GOD spelled Mecca as Becca in the Quran,when GOD chose not to put Bismillah in Surah 9 while he put it in the beginning of all the other Surahs.Where are your answers to these questions??Why are the scholars clueless on many of these questions??Why isnt there any clear records of the Prophet's interpretations on these ??Are u saying GOD put those in the Quran for just the sake of it??

 [12:101] "My Lord, You have given me kingship and taught me the interpretation of dreams. Initiator of the heavens and the earth; You are my Lord and Master in this life and in the Hereafter. Let me die as a submitter, and count me with the righteous."

 [36:69] What we taught him (the messenger) was not poetry, nor is he (a poet). This is but a formidable proof,* and a profound Quran.

                      Miracle of the Quran to be Unveiled After Muhammad*
                                                            
                                             
 [10:20] They say, "How come no miracle came down to him from his Lord?" Say, "The future belongs to GOD; so wait, and I am waiting along with you."