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Unfortunately again u fail to see light.So ur saying that the challenge and the miracle of the Quran is the richness and beauty of the Arabic in it???Well in that case the challenge wuld only apply to those who know Arabic.What relevance would this challenge have to the non arabs???How does this challenge apply to the non arabs???!!What is the point in challenging to produce a Surah in Arabic to over 95 percent of the world population when they dont speak arabic or have nothing to do with it???!So clearly.. the miraculous or unimitatable aspect of the Quran cannot be just Arabic.....

The Quran was revealed in Arabic and only the Arabic is free from error.  Do you agree?  Why then would the miracle not be in the original Arabic?  There are many non-Arabs who know Arabic.  Many scholars of Arabic are non-Arabs.  They are not even Muslims and yet they acknowledge that the Quran is an entirely different form of Arabic poetry, one that does not fall into the 16 known classifications.  It is a classification of its own, and for 1400 years, no one has imitated that.  That sounds like a miracle to me and certainly more so than some code which only works when you remove some words or alter others. 

If only you could quit nitpicking and look properly,u would see how that doesnt necessarily change the meaning of the verse in a big way.

Of course it changes the meaning!  Using the English word "unseen" is very different from using the word "future".  The former can mean many things and the latter is specific.  In addition, even if the word should be translated as "future", in the context of the verse, it would the immediate future involving the questioning party and Muhammad (pbuh).  If it was a reference to RK and his "miracle", why would Allah have said to the unbelievers to "wait"? 

Furthermore, even though I think I have already exposed RK enough, I just can't help exposing him further.  I previously gave an example of how he was inconsistent in his translation.  Well, he was also inconsistent in how he translated "ghaib".  For instance, he translated 2:3, which uses "ghaib", as saying "...who believe in the unseen, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and from our provisions to them, they give to charity." Why does he translate it differently from verse to verse?  Was it the code again? 

However,Im pretty much sure that if these translators knew anything about the math miracle of the Quran and the time of its revelation, they wouldve translated it exactly the way God intended it to be.

What does that have to do with anything?  Is that what guided RK in his translation?  A preconceived notion about a mathematical code?  This is the nail in the coffin!  You have exposed RK (oh the irony!!).  He purposefully changed the meaning to fit the code and misguided himself and others.       

Any comments from Haris?

xx__Ace__xx wrote: Haris has to be high to think Jesus' second coming is false. It is clearly spoken of in the Quran. As for the question of his second coming "making him the last prophet", I kinda find it mediocre. Bare in mind this is his second coming, IMO. He was one of the Prophets sent earlier, before Muhammad SAW, so how the heck does it make him the last one? His second coming won't be to bring a new Islamic law, but to follow Muhammad SAW's, as Islamispeace pointed out earlier. Woah woah woah, and reading Islamispeace's post, this guy RK sounds like a complete fraud. If anyone would tell me his full name or a bit about him? I gotta Google him up to see what all lies he's bluffed

As-salaam alaikum brother Ace

RK stands for Rashad Khalifa.  He claimed to be a messenger of God and believed that a mathematical code revolving around the number 19 existed in the Quran.  He founded the United Submitters International, a group which claims to represent true Islam.  They reject the Hadiths as fabrications and consider the Quran to be the source.  Hence they are also known as "Quran-only" movement.  RK was murdered in Arizona in 1990.

The same reason which u point out may be happen & create same situation now. so we say that make a platform to return  jesus second time in the world. I sharing with u & your valuable topic. thanks.