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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2010 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by Full of Hopes Full of Hopes wrote:


�"Do not eat and drink with your left hand, because Satan eats and drinks with the left hand" (Hanbel 2/8,33). How convenient for lefties , but what's the fuss, they only make up 15-25% of the population.

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Please explain your question, I do not understand it here..
� But when someone wants to please Allah, Allah makes it soo easy for him. I know many lefties who are so happy with eating with their right hands. Even some lefties like to practice doing many other things with their right hands, some can write and draw even.. it is not hard..

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It wasn't a question, it was more of a statement. It's just wierd that God made 'em lefthanded and makes 'em eat with a right hand , but I think I already know what you gonna answer me on this one - it's how God tries 'em out, right? To see if they are good folowers.. I think it's more of a custom.. see when when toilet paper wasn't invented yet, people used different stuff to clean themselves, "in India and other middle eastern countries, even today, the preferred method is to wipe using nothing but your left hand and water and then of course wash your hand well afterward and don’t handle any food or the like with your left hand; as such, people who are left handed tend to be forced to become right handed early on in those regions." So, maybe that's why you shouldn't eat with left hand?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2010 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by Full of Hopes Full of Hopes wrote:

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"I am the most honorable messenger, on the day of the judgment only I will think of my people" (Bukhary 97/36).

First of all thanks for tthe answer, but as far as I see it totally contradicts with quran cause it stated clearly in it that there's no distinction between prophets. Here are verses:

"The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in All�h, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)." 2:285

"Say (O Muslims), "We believe in All�h and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibr�him (Abraham), Ism�'il (Ishmael), Ish�que (Isaac), Ya'q�b (Jacob), and to Al-Asb�t [the twelve sons of Ya'q�b (Jacob), and that which has been given to M�sa (Moses) and 'Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Isl�m)." 2:136



"Do not make any distinction among the messengers; I am not even better than Jonah" (Bukhary 65/4,5; Hanbel 1/205,242,440).

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�The scholars of hadiths answer you question about this as some people ask this like you:

�they said: in case some people want to lower the position of the prophets peace be upon them, or abuse any other prophet saying he is lower positions tell him this hadith: Do not make any distinction among the messengers; I am not even better than Jonah.


Trust me, this verse of hadith is not about any other prophet but Muhammad. So, what other prophets are you trying to connect to it?

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�But in case someone wants to abuse the prophet's high position or deny it, you will need this hadith: "I am the most honorable messenger, on the day of the judgment only I will think of my people"


What high position? Again it contradicts quran. There is no distinction between them. There are no "high" or "low" prophets, don't you understand?

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�That is why dear brother we need to know more about the events and be soooo knowledgeable when� we talk about hadith,, because the hadith and even the aya is not separated form the event and the time to use it.

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It is hadith+ an event+ the time to use it.

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�that is why, my dear brother, the ignorant come and say.. hey we got a contradiction because they do not understand.

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Pretty conviniet to have two explanations I tell you. And it's even better to have 'em stated as correct ones at the same time, even that they both contradict each other. Can it get any better for a scholar?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2010 at 9:46am
 "Do not eat and drink with your left hand, because Satan eats and drinks with the left hand" (Hanbel 2/8,33). How convenient for lefties , but what's the fuss, they only make up 15-25% of the population.
 
 
Please explain your question, I do not understand it here..
  But when someone wants to please Allah, Allah makes it soo easy for him. I know many lefties who are so happy with eating with their right hands. Even some lefties like to practice doing many other things with their right hands, some can write and draw even.. it is not hard..Smile
 
And whoever seeks a religion other than Isl�m, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2010 at 9:42am
"The Prophet never urinated in standing position" (Hanbel 6/136,192,213).
"The prophet urinated in standing position" (Bukhary 4/60,62).

 
 The prophet, peace be upon him had a pain in his knee which is hard for him to sit with, so that he urinated standing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2010 at 9:34am

"The prophet said:'Do not write anything from me except the Quran. Whoever wrote, must destroy it" (Muslim, Zuhd 72; Hanbel 3/12,21,39).
"The prophet ordered Amr Ibn As to write everything that he speaks" (Hanbel 2/162).

  Brother again here you need the event, the time and purpose to study a certain hadith. The first hadith was in the in the beginning of Islam.. not  many people know Quraan and if the hadith is written it might be mixed with Quraan and be confusing at that time.. then after that, it was fine cause many people knew Quraan very well.. 

 "Omar said: Quran is enough for us, do not write anything from the prophet" (Bukhary, Jihad 176, Gizya 6, Ilim 49, Marza 17, Megazi 83, Itisam 26; Muslim, Vasiyya 20,21,22). 
 
 Yeah, dear brother, Umar RAA, said saw because this happened when the prophet peace be upon him was on the bed and before his death. he was so sick and people were fighting in front of him, when he said, let me write something for you. At that time. Umar, RAA, felt the mercy on the prophet, pace be upon him because he was sick and wanted to make them stop fighting so that he reminded them of Quraan. So that again you need to know the time a certain hadith is said.
 
 


Edited by Full of Hopes - 04 March 2010 at 9:50am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2010 at 9:23am
 "The punishment for cutting the fingers of a woman is to pay her: 10 camels for one finger, 20 camels for two fingers, 30 camels for three fingers, and 20 (twenty) camels for four fingers" (Hanbel 2/182; Muvatta 43/11).
 
  I do not have the answer for this. I hope someone else can help.Ouch


Edited by Full of Hopes - 04 March 2010 at 9:36am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2010 at 9:22am
 
 
  Oh!! dear brother Calv!! Star
 
  may Allah guide me and you and all Muslims into the truth!!
 I am trying to help as well, but I do not feel embarrassed to say.. I am not a scholar and do not have the answers for soooo mnay questions.. but let me add what i know about some of your questions as i heard it from a scholar..
 
 first: I am soooo proud of you and your wide knowledge about hadith and it makes me feel so sure Allah is guiding you to more of his true religion and raising your rank, in sha Allah.
 
"I am the most honorable messenger, on the day of the judgment only I will think of my people" (Bukhary 97/36).
"Do not make any distinction among the messengers; I am not even better than Jonah" (Bukhary 65/4,5; Hanbel 1/205,242,440).
 
 The scholars of hadiths answer you question about this as some people ask this like you:
 they said: in case some people want to lower the position of the prophets peace be upon them, or abuse any other prophet saying he is lower positions tell him this hadith: Do not make any distinction among the messengers; I am not even better than Jonah.
 
 But in case someone wants to abuse the prophet's high position or deny it, you will need this hadith: "I am the most honorable messenger, on the day of the judgment only I will think of my people"
 
 That is why dear brother we need to know more about the events and be soooo knowledgeable when  we talk about hadith,, because the hadith and even the aya is not separated form the event and the time to use it.
 
It is hadith+ an event+ the time to use it.
 
 that is why, my dear brother, the ignorant come and say.. hey we got a contradiction because they do not understand.
 
 
 


Edited by Full of Hopes - 04 March 2010 at 9:48am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2010 at 2:00am

Don;t think calvindamenace is trying to offend anyone here, least of all GOd or the Qur'an. He wants answers thats all.
THere can really only be one answer to a question, and he's not getting that.
If the answers vary then he is bound to be suspicious about things. I would to. Actually I have been :) NOt anymore though. Am in a really nice place now, thanks to all muslims everywhere.

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some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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