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    Posted: 25 January 2010 at 8:24am
What is Islamic view on man who cannot love a woman n hence cannot bring himself into marriage as he is a homosexual even though he has not committed any carnal pleasure with another human? Does he has Allah mercy for his jihad against his desire for man or will he be condemned as the prophet pbuh has mentioned that among those who refuse to get married does not belong to his ummah?
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The admonition of the Prophet with respect to marriage was addressing those who sought closeness to Allah through extreme measures such as not marrying or fasting continuously.  The Prophet, who was the best example and most fearing of Allah, married -  therefore his sunnah is to marry.  This does not mean if one doesn't marry they are condemned.  Ibn Taymiyya never married and likely many others had, and will have extenuating circumstances preventing them from marriage. 
 
We are not held accountable for our thoughts unless they become action.  Thinking of alcohol doesn't make you a drunk, and desiring a man doesn't make you homosexual.  The essence of fearing Allah is jihad against our desires (patience) and certainly you will are rewarded for this. 


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The greatest Jihad is the Jihad against ones own Nafs and desires . . .  and Jihad is a very reward-worthy act. Smile. May Allah help that man.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hayfa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2010 at 10:44am
Asalam Alaikum,
 
I was listening to a lecture regarding marriage and there are absolutely times we are ordered NOT to marry.  I don't remember them exactly. But you could discuss it further with a scholar.
 
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the greatest jihad...this hadeeth has been rendered fabricated by Albany so pls dont quote it again.
it was formed by those lazy sufis who were scared of jihad
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote honeto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2010 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by Johndow Johndow wrote:

What is Islamic view on man who cannot love a woman n hence cannot bring himself into marriage as he is a homosexual even though he has not committed any carnal pleasure with another human? Does he has Allah mercy for his jihad against his desire for man or will he be condemned as the prophet pbuh has mentioned that among those who refuse to get married does not belong to his ummah?


Hi "Johndow"
as long as you don't commit or intend to commit what Allah has forbidden, be in bed with another man, and fight against that desire, you are on the right path. As far as you "cannot love" a woman: If it is only due to your lack of desire, can be worked through some kind of counseling and medical help. If it is due to physical incapabilities it can still be worked out. In this age and time there is all sort of medical help available and you must seek it. When we strive toward doing what is right, Allah is happy with us. When we give up and follow the easy course and our own desires, it only increases evidence against ourself.
May Allah help you in your struggle toward what is right.
Hasan

The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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Originally posted by Shema Shema wrote:

the greatest jihad...this hadeeth has been rendered fabricated by Albany so pls dont quote it again.
it was formed by those lazy sufis who were scared of jihad



some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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"desiring a man doesn't make you homosexual."
 
This is faulty logic....no offense.....
 
The brain is our most powerful tool. I agree according to society and societal laws nothing is concrete unless actions exist. But flipping this what about Muhammad? If Muhammad had the (what I would call the psychological experience) of revelation how can we conclude he was a prophet? Ok I know there are those who state that he performed "actual miracles" but my point is that actions doesn't always necessitate everything.
 
If this person contains homosexual feelings all the while is maintaining their religious convictions I don't see why this person by definition is not homosexual. By definition I'm not talking about Webster's dictionary (as some of you use as a standard of truth), I'm referring to internal feelings or biochemical reactions in the body. If the above italic is true then unmarried men who are sexually attracted to women are not heterosexuals either.


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