Muslims Unite In Prayers Against Al-Qaeda

Khadija1021 wrote:   Second, it is wrong to equate the actions and behaviors of President Bush with Americans.  President Bush did not ask the American public whether or not we wanted to go to war.  Nor did he get the permission of congress.  Although many Americans are supportive of the troops that are in the Middle East, they do so not in support of the war, but in support of their fathers, brothers, son and such.

exactly.  Im very glad some people see that it is unfair for any group or country to be steriotyped as all thinking the same way.

amna_ali wrote: Asslamualaikum Well said Khadija.I totally agree. "Islamic Terrorism" how can these words be juxtaposed? Islam is not what terrorists are doing. Islam is religion of peace and love. Same is the case with "Fundamentalist Muslims."

i see your point of view but they do claim to be Islamic, in fact that is the very center to there movement so to discard there religious views would be incorrect.  The fact that they use Quran scriptures to explain what they are doing is troubling.  What is more troubling to me is that these scriptures exist in the book. 5:51 is one of the most troubling to me.  Throughout the book I see referances to Jews and Christians as being unjust people not guided by Allah thus many could read as being guilded by Satan.  Jihad itself is built into the religion.  The forced Islamic Views and laws that have been forced on so many people are well within the Quran's teachings.

Im glad that there are so many peaceful Muslims.  Im not a Christian but do live around many here in the US.  I see how easy it is for religion to take over someone's life.

rocitreal wrote: amna_ali wrote: Asslamualaikum Well said Khadija.I totally agree. "Islamic Terrorism" how can these words be juxtaposed? Islam is not what terrorists are doing. Islam is religion of peace and love. Same is the case with "Fundamentalist Muslims." i see your point of view but they do claim to be Islamic, in fact that is the very center to there movement so to discard there religious views would be incorrect.  The fact that they use Quran scriptures to explain what they are doing is troubling.  What is more troubling to me is that these scriptures exist in the book. 5:51 is one of the most troubling to me.  Throughout the book I see referances to Jews and Christians as being unjust people not guided by Allah thus many could read as being guilded by Satan.  Jihad itself is built into the religion.  The forced Islamic Views and laws that have been forced on so many people are well within the Quran's teachings. Im glad that there are so many peaceful Muslims.  Im not a Christian but do live around many here in the US.  I see how easy it is for religion to take over someone's life.

Thanks for your thoughts rocitreal.  You said, "Jihad itself is built into the religion."  I started a string in this area called 'just jihad' in an attempt to explore the teaching of jihad within Islam and whether and how it relates to the 'just war' concept in Christian teachings and debate.

I think if more and more Muslims would reject the offered Qur'anic underpinnings of radical extremist jihadist teaching and instead would strongly advocate a more defensive view of 'jihad' as protection from outside attack, then AQ and its ilk would lose important support and underpinnings.  The War against Terror/War for Freedom is NOT and must not be a war against Islam.

Peace Rocitreal

Yes Al Qaida members do claim to be Islamic in their acts. But do you think mere claim is enough to make you believe their acts as Islamic. Shadaad, Pharoah, Numrood claimed to be gods. Were their claim going to make them gods??? 

One should keep one�s eyes and ears open to decide pragmatically. First verify and then accept or reject ideas. Claim without proper evidence is bogus.

 

You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them. (Quran17:36)

 

Islam is a religion of peace, love, and brotherhood. It stresses on justice and freedom of an individual. Human life is sacred. No one is allowed to kill innocent lives. In Quran Allah says:

 

"...., we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. .... " (Quran 5:32)

 

".... You shall not kill - GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you that you may understand." (Quran 6:151)

 

"You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. ....." (Quran17:33)

 

Yes Muslims are allowed to fight back in their defense or for the enforcement of peace and justice. And it is Jihad to fight against oppression and terrorism.

 

Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. (Quran 2:190)

 

But again with some condition �do not transgress limits.� Islam gives religious freedom. It does not allow its followers to kill those who differ in faith. There are several verses in Quran the clearly tells What Allah wants from His people.

 

"There shall be no compulsion in religion...". (Quran 2:256)

 

GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable." (Quran 60:8)"

 

If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient." (Quran 8:61)"

 

"...... Therefore, if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them." (Quran 4:90)

 

Now come to the verse that you are referring to it sates;

 

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (Quran 5:51)

 

It dose not mean that Muslims can not have Christians or Jews as friends. Here it warns against only those Christians and Jews who fight against Muslims but not those who are peaceful. This verse is wrongly taken by Al Qaida members who think it their duty to fight against every Jew and Christian. These are terrorists who call themselves Muslims. They have overlooked what Allah really wants from us.  

 

Rocitreal wrote:

 

�Throughout the book I see referances to Jews and Christians as being unjust people not guided by Allah thus many could read as being guilded by Satan.  Jihad itself is built into the religion.  The forced Islamic Views and laws that have been forced on so many people are well within the Quran's teachings.�

 

I think you better quote those specific verses.

 

As far as Jihad is concerned I quote from article �Save a Life, Save All Humanity--Take a Life, Kill All Humanity
What the Islamic scriptures really say about jihad and violence.�

 

�According to 'Abdur-Rashid, there are three levels of jihad:

Personal Jihad: The most excellent jihad is that of the soul. This jihad, called the Jihadun-Nafs, is the intimate struggle to purify the soul of satanic influence--both subtle and overt. It is the struggle to cleanse one's spirit of sin. This is the most important level of jihad.

Verbal Jihad: On another occasion, the Prophet said, "The most excellent jihad is the speaking of truth in the face of a tyrant." He encouraged raising one's voice in the name of Allah on behalf of justice.

Physical Jihad: This is combat waged in defense of Muslims against oppression and transgression by the enemies of Allah, Islam and Muslims. We are commanded by Allah to lead peaceful lives and not transgress against anyone, but also to defend ourselves against oppression by "fighting against those who fight against us." This "jihad with the hand" is the aspect of jihad that has been so profoundly misunderstood in today's world.� (Source http://beliefnet.com/story/87/story_8753_1.html)

 

Ma Salaam