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Originally posted by amna_ali amna_ali wrote:

Asslamualaikum

Well said Khadija.I totally agree. "Islamic Terrorism" how can these words be juxtaposed? Islam is not what terrorists are doing. Islam is religion of peace and love. Same is the case with "Fundamentalist Muslims."

i see your point of view but they do claim to be Islamic, in fact that is the very center to there movement so to discard there religious views would be incorrect.  The fact that they use Quran scriptures to explain what they are doing is troubling.  What is more troubling to me is that these scriptures exist in the book. 5:51 is one of the most troubling to me.  Throughout the book I see referances to Jews and Christians as being unjust people not guided by Allah thus many could read as being guilded by Satan.  Jihad itself is built into the religion.  The forced Islamic Views and laws that have been forced on so many people are well within the Quran's teachings.

Im glad that there are so many peaceful Muslims.  Im not a Christian but do live around many here in the US.  I see how easy it is for religion to take over someone's life.

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Originally posted by Yusuf. Yusuf. wrote:

Assalamu alaikum,

As the article akhi Moskva shared seems to indicate, I see the US and Al-Qaeda as two evil forces in battle with one another. May they destroy each other Insha'Allah.

Al Qaeda is obviously a group who all follow the same guildlines and beliefs however the US is not.  It is made up of many differant types of people from many differant religions and cultures unlike Al Qaeda.  To me it is unfair to group all americans together and call them evil.  What about the muslim americans, they are evil to in your eyes for simply living in the US ?

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Originally posted by Khadija1021 Khadija1021 wrote:

 

Second, it is wrong to equate the actions and behaviors of President Bush with Americans.  President Bush did not ask the American public whether or not we wanted to go to war.  Nor did he get the permission of congress.  Although many Americans are supportive of the troops that are in the Middle East, they do so not in support of the war, but in support of their fathers, brothers, son and such. 

exactly.  Im very glad some people see that it is unfair for any group or country to be steriotyped as all thinking the same way.

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Asslamualaikum

Well said Khadija.I totally agree. "Islamic Terrorism" how can these words be juxtaposed? Islam is not what terrorists are doing. Islam is religion of peace and love. Same is the case with "Fundamentalist Muslims."

Khadija you are right "We can no longer sit back and point fingers.  We can no longer wish or hope that one side of the other will simply �die.�  Even if they did, someone else would be more than glad to come along and pick up where they left off.  We must speak out for Islam and what is right.  We must work towards an Islamic Community as Allah asked us too.  If we don�t build one ourselves, then someone like a Ben Laden or a Bush is going to come and force us to bow to them instead of to Allah.  Inshallah that will not happen but it is our duties as Muslims to make sure it doesn�t.  In doing so, we will be successful as Allah promised.  Allahu Akbar!"

So its time to realise our duties and work over it. Inshallah "we will be successful" no doubt.

Ma Salaam

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DavidC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2005 at 2:42am
Suppose for one moment that Al-Quaeda in Iraq suddenly ceased
deliberately blowing up innocent Muslims and did something sensible like
move to Chechnya and struggle against the Russians.

What would the result be?

And if the US suddenly abandoned Iraq to Al-Quaeda?

Which scenario is better for the Iraqis? Forget all this geopolitical intrigue.
What would be the result as it affects todays' Iraqi citizen?
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Assalamu Alaikum

 

Brother MOCKBA, although I agree with some of the major points of the article you posted, I have two major problems with it. 

 

First, the person that wrote it uses the phrase "Islamic terrorism."  I am strongly opposed to the use of this word and anyone who uses it in reference to what is going on in the world does not truly understand the truth about Islam.  This bothers me tremendously.  Also, the writer refers to Al-Qaeda as "Fundamentalist Muslims."  Since when does Islam embrace what Al-Qaeda does?  They might be "Muslims" in some sense of the word; however, I don't think the right term is "fundamentalist."  To say that is like saying they are simply embracing Islam more strictly than others.  If they embrace Islam, they are doing so incorrectly at best.  It is simply wrong for anyone to equate the actions of Al-Qaeda with Islam. 

 

Second, it is wrong to equate the actions and behaviors of President Bush with Americans.  President Bush did not ask the American public whether or not we wanted to go to war.  Nor did he get the permission of congress.  Although many Americans are supportive of the troops that are in the Middle East, they do so not in support of the war, but in support of their fathers, brothers, son and such.  Many Americans remember the grave injustice that was done to the men who fought in Viet Nam.  It is not the fault of these men that President has sent them into a war unjustly.  To refuse to fight is an act of treason which is punishable by life in prison or death.  If you were to take a real poll regarding how Americans feel about Bush and his "campaign against terrorism" you would see that most Americans are not in support of Bush and what he is doing.  Most Americans would rather have their family members home and to let the Middle East take care of its own problems.  If there was support for the war in the beginning, it was because Bush distorted the issues and made his actions appear to be a means to stop what he refers to as "Islamic terrorists" which many Americans were mislead to meant he was going to stop Al-Qaeda.

 

I�m a Muslim and I don�t support Al-Qaeda.  I�m, also, an American and I don�t support Bush.  Neither Bush nor Ben Laden (or whoever is the head of Al-Qaeda at this time) care how many people they have to kill to fulfill their own agenda.  I do not believe for one second that Bush had the best interest of Americans in mind when he engaged in war or that he does as he continued his Middle Eastern blood bath.  Likewise, I do not believe for one second that the head of Al-Qaeda has the best interest of Islam in mind at this time or in the past.  Power and control that is what both these men want�that is their common thread.  Their desire is nothing short of being dictators of their own empire.  That is why they will continue to fight and why we as �Sincere Muslims� must stand up and make our voices heard.  We can no longer sit back and point fingers.  We can no longer wish or hope that one side of the other will simply �die.�  Even if they did, someone else would be more than glad to come along and pick up where they left off.  We must speak out for Islam and what is right.  We must work towards an Islamic Community as Allah asked us too.  If we don�t build one ourselves, then someone like a Ben Laden or a Bush is going to come and force us to bow to them instead of to Allah.  Inshallah that will not happen but it is our duties as Muslims to make sure it doesn�t.  In doing so, we will be successful as Allah promised.  Allahu Akbar!

 

PAZ, Khadija



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Assalamu alaikum,

As the article akhi Moskva shared seems to indicate, I see the US and Al-Qaeda as two evil forces in battle with one another. May they destroy each other Insha'Allah.

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Bismillah,

My strong feeling to pray against Al-Qaeda arose because they requested it after this heinous attack on an Iraqi town and its people.  They should know for a certainty that most Muslims do not support them and will pray against them.

We could also pray to Allah, SWT, against all terrorists as well, including American Government officials bombing innocents and ignoring collateral damage all over the world.

Our prayers are powerful.  Let's use them.

"But if terrorists believed they could more effectively rid their societies of Western influence through nonviolence, they would do so. President Bush has said as much about his own rationale for invading Iraq - if Saddam Hussein would have resigned his dictatorship and fled into exile, opening Iraq to democracy, America wouldn't have invaded.With neither scenario plausible, rather than curtail its goals, each side resorts to violence to see its worldview to fruition."

I've known other people who did not believe evil is inherent.  I do believe that it is, and that some people enjoy violence, bloodshed, and destruction.  Such a soul in any world would cause havoc and destruction.

 

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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