Women-Led Friday Prayer

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I just read an article on CNN dealing with this issue. I stopped taking it seriously once I read that the woman that led the mixed-gender prayer has a book being published soon. I should have known. Is there no shame anymore in this country? Hey, the fastest way to put down the revolutionary fist is to put a check in it. Sad. I'm not muslim but I fully understand the dynamics of this entire situation. Being an African-American male, I've seen the U.S. government urge African-American women, for generations, to be "independent" and question why the men should be the leaders of the family. Hence, why our community is in such sad state. The strategies are still the same, just a different playing field . When I see a woman president of the U.S. then maybe I'll think differently but even then I'll have my doubts. It should be no surprise that "women's lib" gets major press throughout Islamic countries at this point. Wars are fought on many fronts. Though Islam may not be for me, I do see the order in it and have the utmost respect for the Prophet Muhammad* (pbuh). Where there is no order, there is chaos. I pray this woman wakes up and repents because she may be setting an example that will prove to be the downfall of the entire Islamic community. If she feels so strong about this issue then maybe she should come up with her own religion that allows such actions or find another one that does. Lastly, I question the intention of any so-called spiritual event where the U.S. media is called in to cover it. 
Rock
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semar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 11 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1830	Post Options Post Reply Quote semar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 March 2005 at 11:55pm
	Here one comment form a man name Rock: ===== I just read an article on CNN dealing with this issue. I stopped taking it seriously once I read that the woman that led the mixed-gender prayer has a book being published soon. I should have known. Is there no shame anymore in this country? Hey, the fastest way to put down the revolutionary fist is to put a check in it. Sad. I'm not muslim but I fully understand the dynamics of this entire situation. Being an African-American male, I've seen the U.S. government urge African-American women, for generations, to be "independent" and question why the men should be the leaders of the family. Hence, why our community is in such sad state. The strategies are still the same, just a different playing field . When I see a woman president of the U.S. then maybe I'll think differently but even then I'll have my doubts. It should be no surprise that "women's lib" gets major press throughout Islamic countries at this point. Wars are fought on many fronts. Though Islam may not be for me, I do see the order in it and have the utmost respect for the Prophet Muhammad* (pbuh). Where there is no order, there is chaos. I pray this woman wakes up and repents because she may be setting an example that will prove to be the downfall of the entire Islamic community. If she feels so strong about this issue then maybe she should come up with her own religion that allows such actions or find another one that does. Lastly, I question the intention of any so-called spiritual event where the U.S. media is called in to cover it. Rock =====
	Salam/Peace, Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

zai_711 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote zai_711 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 2:22am
	Assalamu alaikum. With regard to this issue, i just pray that ALL Muslims will be guided to the right path. Allah (SWT) gave us the way of life that we should follow and practice and we should stick to that in every possible way we can. There are things we think are good for us, but Allah (SWT) knows best. We are Muslims because we are to submit to the Will of Allah (SWT)... and it may be good or not (based on our own view), we have to accept it wholeheartedly as a believer. Zai

qpeace1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote qpeace1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 5:21am
	ONLY IN AMERICA!!!!! Same sex marriage is out in the open in the name of "freedom", now it's women performing Friday prayers for and instant of fame, a movie and a book deal. I'm African American and know how this works. This is a women's lib position taken by this sister to get the American mostly white and non muslims on her side. She be wined and dined with them. She is in loc- step with that Somilian hankerchief headed woman (Ms. Ali) in the Dutch Parliment. In America, the media capital of the world, the christians celebrity preachers OPENLY insult and attack the name of Allah and the character of the Prophet on television. She doesn't mention that but stands in league with them by trying to CHANGE islamic practice and present it outwardly as a mix gendered, churchlike feel. Next she will champion islamic acceptance on Gay and Lebians. She and her misled followers will take it as an opportunity to argue and verbally attack men and islam in public as they do now. ONLY IN AMERICA!!! This is just another Fitna assault on Muslims from those who don't understand it, havent' read the Quran and yet critique it. Let her be "free" to create a women lead church-like masjid where men can sit on the floor next to beautiful women, flirt and smile, look at them with unislamic thoughts then stand "foot to foot" with them. We are supposed to believe this is correct because its nontraditional and modern. She's hoping the American's will support her along with those anti islamic powers to try to "divide and conquer" from within. Soon she will use the American platform of Democracy. ONLY IN AMERICA!!!

abdullah mariam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote abdullah mariam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 5:54am
	The Samaritan/English Vocabulary Ar-Aramic Term, He-Ancient Hebrew Term, Ara-Arabic Term Abisha Scroll: The first five books (Pentateuch) of Moses written by the great grandson of Aaron, the brother of Moses son of Amram. See the web page called the Abisha Scroll. Ablutions: Cleansing ones self with water (order: hands, mouth, nose, face, ears, right and left legs) while reciting verses Lev. 15:31, Deut. 28:8, Gen 2:7, Ex. 15:26, and 40:31-32. Ablutions are performed before prayers, after a women's monthly period and childbirth, by males after sex and after touching a corpse. can we or should we trust the hadith The quran said about ablution:O ye who believe!when you prepare for prayer,wash your face,and your hands,rub your head and your feet to the ankles. And you hadiths teach the ablution just like the SAMARITAN

abdullah mariam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote abdullah mariam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 6:08am
	Sisters It sad to see that arabic traditions are becoming the word of Allah Islam is UNIVERSAL

knowledgeseeker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote knowledgeseeker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 6:29am
	Assalam Aliekom, it is a known fact that- There is not a single sahih hadith or Quranic ayah that accepts women-led Friday prayer. ------->If a msulim wants to do something worship-related in Islam, he must find proof to do it or it is simply bidah(innovation) ------->If a muslim wants to do something not worship-related, he msut find a proof against it, or it is okay This principle is one of the most basic things in islam If muslims do not follow the Quran and sunnah what are muslims to follow? the opinions of so and so imam who feel that even the hadith and Quran is wrong. One who does not accept even his creator's words is a hyprocrite. Abdullah ibn Umar(R) did not talk to his son his whole life because of of one incident. Abdullah ibn Umar(R)'s son was one of the great sheikh of that time. Abdullah ibn Umar(R) once told his son a hadith of the Prophet Muhammad and his son commented on that it could not be possible. After that incident, Abdullah ibn Umar(R) did not talk to his son his whole life because he rejected one small hadith.

abdullah mariam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote abdullah mariam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 6:34am
	Do not confuse ISlamic tradition and arabic traditions two very important ISLAMIC traditions :a)HOW TO MAKE THE PRAYER b)THE EID PAYER

abdullah mariam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote abdullah mariam Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2005 at 6:36am
	proof is only taking from the Quran !!!