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    Posted: 16 July 2009 at 9:59am
Well its all viral now, can depress the pious to coma. And even sickening some exploit these to further abuse the Muslim identity in many ways.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chrysalis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2009 at 6:27am
Yes Hayfa - there are horrendous stories about how some Muslims behave and use religion as a shield - hypocritical attitudes. Have seen some firsthand myself. It can actually be very demoralising, and disappointing - even for existing muslims, let alone new ones.

However, better not mention them in front of our new muslim brothers & sisters, since thier perception of muslims and islam is still fairly new. Such people exist everywhere. I do not wish to spoil the strong imaan they feel about the ummah and islam. If you know what I mean. You are a revert yourself, perhaps you understand. For if they hear negative things said about other muslims, they may unconsciously be effected - for e.g looking at a Niqabi Muslimah and wonder about her intentions, or meet a bearded brother, and suspect them -because of the things they heard. Etc. Hope u know what I mean.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hayfa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2009 at 6:21pm
To marry such would be an honor. Allah knows best.... I think it symbolizes her personality as religious and modest.

JihadX... until you find out that she wear the niqab to hide her identity to see her boyfriend.. I know women in Pakistan who have done this..

Its the same as 'beauty' its the outer cover.. and that can be a mirage..

So be careful that what something is symbol represents the inside..
When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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@ abuayisha : That would be enough... without looking at actions.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2009 at 1:04pm
Thank you Chrysalis.  You put it into words very well. 

I have not been a Muslim long enough to really look into the whole marriage thing for myself.  I am still trying educate the new muslim I am.  I only have experience with women before coming to Islam.  I am only sharing what is true for me.  I being new would want someone who is strong in faith to help strengthen me in my Islam, then attraction next.

"A woman is chosen for marriage for four reasons: her wealth, social status, beauty and religion.  So marry the religious woman, may your hands be filled with sand (a statement of encouragement.)
Fath Al-Bari 9:35, Muslim 2:1087

I can only strive to do the best of things when it is my time to marry.

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"I think it symbolizes her personality as religious and modest."
 
Or could simply be form over substance.  Look closer at actions to make a more accurate determination.
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Aha nice conversation going on here... I think the most admirable woman would be the muslimah wearing niqab. To marry such would be an honor. Allah knows best....
I think it symbolizes her personality as religious and modest. To me, this is more important than looks of her face.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chrysalis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2009 at 1:58am
I think even Niqabi sisters can remove the face veil - so that both prospective partners can look at each other. Both have a right to know what the other looks like. Unless it is a very pious brother who does not mind. Which I believe are 1% of today's muslim ummah. . .   Looking at our spouse before marriage is sunnah - sunnah is an 'encouraged act', following sunnah is sawab. One should not try to exceed beyond sunnah in thier actions (Bukhari hadith narrated by Aisha (r.a) about the 3 men who went beyond sunnah)
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