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"I always hear Muslims say that Islam is the superior religion.  Why has Islam not been able to over come honor killings?"
 
Do I need to repost ALL of the information I posted before about honor killings and the people who commit them? There are Christians committing honor killings also, especially in predominantly Latin countries where men's honor is highly prized.  Do we really need to do the whole religion thing again??? 
 
It is irresponsible that as soon as something like this occurs it becomes an Islamic issue instead of a domestic violence issue, which it is. 
 
Stats for domestic homicide in the USA. It goes without saying that Islam is not the predominant religion in the U.S.

Domestic Homicides

  • On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.7
  • Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than 4 percent of the murders of men.8
  • Of females killed with a firearm, almost two-thirds were killed by their intimate partners. The number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate partner was more than three times higher than the total number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined in single victim/single offender incidents in 2002.
    The Violence Pol'y Ctr., When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 2002 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents, at 7 (2004), available at http://www.vpc.org/studies/wmmw2004.pdf

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, between 1998 and 2002:

  • Of the almost 3.5 million violent crimes committed against family members, 49% of these were crimes against spouses.
  • 84% of spouse abuse victims were females, and 86% of victims of dating partner abuse at were female.
  • Males were 83% of spouse murderers and 75% of dating partner murderers
  • 50% of offenders in state prison for spousal abuse had killed their victims. Wives were more likely than husbands to be killed by their spouses: wives were about half of all spouses in the population in 2002, but 81% of all persons killed by their spouse.

    Matthew R. Durose et al., U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 207846, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Family Violence Statistics: Including Statistics on Strangers and Acquaintances, at 31-32 (2005), available at http
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2009 at 2:46pm

RESPONDING TO THE KILLING OF AASIYA HASSAN: AN OPEN LETTER TO THE LEADERS OF AMERICAN MUSLIM COMMUNITIES
Imam Mohamed Hagmagid Ali, ISNA, 2/16/09
By Imam Mohamed Hagmagid Ali
Executive Director, ADAMS Center
Vice-President, The Islamic Society of North America

The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) is saddened and shocked by the news of the loss of one of our respected sisters, Aasiya Hassan whose life was taken violently. To God we belong and to Him we return (Qur�an 2:156). We pray that she find peace in God�s infinite Mercy, and our prayers and sympathies are with sister Aasiya�s family. Our prayers are also with the Muslim community of Buffalo who have been devastated by the loss of their beloved sister and the shocking nature of this incident.

This is a wake up call to all of us, that violence against women is real and can not be ignored. It must be addressed collectively by every member of our community. Several times each day in America, a woman is abused or assaulted. Domestic violence is a behavior that knows no boundaries of religion, race, ethnicity, or social status. Domestic violence occurs in every community. The Muslim community is not exempt from this issue. We, the Muslim community, need to take a strong stand against domestic violence. Unfortunately, some of us ignore such problems in our community, wanting to think that it does not occur among Muslims or we downgrade its seriousness.

I call upon my fellow imams and community leaders to never second-guess a woman who comes to us indicating that she feels her life to be in danger. We should provide support and help to protect the victims of domestic violence by providing for them a safe place and inform them of their rights as well as refer them to social service providers in our areas.

Marriage is a relationship that should be based on love, mutual respect and kindness. No one who experiences a marriage that is built on these principles would pretend that their life is in danger. We must respond to all complaints or reports of abuse as genuine and we must take appropriate and immediate action to ensure the victim�s safety, as well as the safety of any children that may be involved.

Women who seek divorce from their spouses because of physical abuse should get full support from the community and should not be viewed as someone who has brought shame to herself or her family. The shame is on the person who committed the act of violence or abuse. Our community needs to take a strong stand against abusive spouses. We should not make it easy for people who are known to abuse to remarry if they have already victimized someone. We should support people who work against domestic violence in our community, whether they are educators, social service providers, community leaders, or other professionals. . .


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 February 2009 at 6:18pm
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"In Jordan, "honour" killings are sanctioned by law. According to Article 340 of the criminal code, "A husband or a close blood relative who kills a woman caught in a situation highly suspicious of adultery will be totally exempt from sentence." Article 98, meanwhile, guarantees a lighter sentence for male killers of female relatives who have committed an "act which is illicit in the eyes of the perpetrator.""
 
Jordan is basically a Muslim country and it's laws reflect Muslim practice.  The punishemnt is always more lenient in "honor killings" then regular murder.
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A Muslim-American television executive who allegedly beheaded his wife days after she filed for divorce remains jailed without bail following a court appearance in western New York.

Muzzammil Hassan, 44, did not speak during the brief appearance Wednesday before Judge Philip Marshall in Orchard Park Village Court, where an attorney waived Hassan's right to a felony hearing.

Officials at the Erie County District Attorney's Office told FOXNews.com that Hassan will now be held for possible grand jury action within 45 days.

Hassan � who was shackled at his wrists and ankles during his first court appearance � wore a tan suit, white shirt and a tie. He allegedly beheaded Aasiya Hassan, 37, on Thursday and surrendered to police. Hassan was later charged with the second-degree murder of his wife, whose body was found at the office of Bridges TV, their television station in Orchard Park, near Buffalo.

"He came in and said his wife was dead," said Orchard Park Police Chief Andrew Benz, who declined to elaborate on the particulars of his conversation with the suspect.

Reacting to speculation that the crime may have been an "honor killing," defense attorney James Harrington said "culture, religion doesn't play a role."

"It's not an issue in this case," said Harrington, who described the burly businessman as almost in shock.

"He has an almost blunted affect. He's having difficulty coping with this," the lawyer said.

Following multiple episodes of domestic violence, Aasiya Hassan filed for divorce on Feb. 6 and obtained an order of protection that barred her husband from their home, according to attorney Elizabeth DiPirro, whose law firm, Hogan Willig, represented Aasiya Hassan in the divorce proceeding.

The Islamic Society of North America issued a statement of condolence to Buffalo's Muslim community and urged leaders to take a strong stand against domestic violence.

"Women who seek divorce from their spouses because of physical abuse should get full support from the community and should not be viewed as someone who has brought shame to herself or her family," the statement by Imam Mohamed Hagmagid Ali said.

Muzzammil and Aasiya Hassan founded Bridges TV in November 2004 to counter anti-Islam stereotypes, touting the network as the "first-ever full-time home for American Muslims," according to a 2004 press release.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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So why the in the Muslim nation of Jordon is this a law, when in the horrible kuffir nation of USA a murder is a murder whether honor killing or not?
 
In Jordan, "honour" killings are sanctioned by law. According to Article 340 of the criminal code, "A husband or a close blood relative who kills a woman caught in a situation highly suspicious of adultery will be totally exempt from sentence." Article 98, meanwhile, guarantees a lighter sentence for male killers of female relatives who have committed an "act which is illicit in the eyes of the perpetrator.""
 
Did you read the law is giving criminals an out to kill!!
 
Jordan 'honour killings' cover for other crimes

 Men exploit lenient laws to murder women for inheritance, settling family feuds or to hide other crimes.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2009 at 7:22pm
Believer, first there are no Muslim governments. Second, this was in the article in the link you provided:
 
Qaddumi - along with other experts � noted that Islam prohibits such crimes and that the problem is not "purely Jordanian".

"To stop the killing of women article 340 should be scrapped. I think Islamic sharia law should be applied," she said.

Under sharia law, "punishment for adultery or fornication can't be enforced unless there is a confession by the culprit or a testimony of four reliable, sane and adult eyewitnesses who each saw the process of sexual intercourse."

Why don't you quit trying to make this into an Islamic issue. Islam clearly does not allow such actions.
The victim in this case had filed for divorce and was trying to leave the perpetrator. What is your reasoning when a Christian commits such a crime? It is a fact that most spousal murders in the U.S. occur when the wife or female partner tries to leave the relationship. According to your criteria all of these would be considered "honor killings".
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2009 at 7:48pm
 What is the difference between any of these murders and the murder of Aasiya Hassan? Besides the fact that their religion isn't part of the headline?
 
Louisiana Man Sentenced To Die For Church Murders, Wife's Slaying
Reported by: Copyright 2008 by Newsroom Solutions

Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 @02:01pm CST

(Baton Rouge) -- In a case that drew national attention in May of 2006, a Baton Rouge man who defended himself at trial was formally sentenced Thursday morning to die for the murders of four in-laws at a church in the capital city and the slaying of his estranged wife that same day. The punishment handed 27-year-old Anthony Bell by State District Judge Todd Hernandez was that recommended by an East Baton Rouge Parish jury.The jurors convicted Bell in April of five-counts of first-degree murder and one-count of attempted murder.
 

Man Murders His Wife in Southeast Shelby County


Release Date: July 28, 2008

A man was charged with First Degree Murder today for shooting his wife to death last night at their southeast Shelby County home.  After the murder, Sheriff�s detectives say Travis Williams, 48, walked next door and told his neighbors what happened.

Williams surrendered to Deputies as they arrived at the couple�s home at 4315 Whispering Bend Cove North just after 10 o�clock.

Deputies found Williams� wife, Alberta, 50, dead inside the house.  She had been shot in the neck as she lay in bed.

Sheriff's detectives say the couple was having marital problems.  Investigators believe the relationship issues led to the murder.

No other people were inside the house. 

Man Murders Wife, Blames Daughter

By Michael F. Haverluck
CBNNews.com
January 23, 2007

CBNNews.com -- PIERRE, S.D. -- The man who first acccused his daughter of stabbing his wife to death now stands convicted of the crime. Brad Reay was found guilty Tuesday of first degree murder in the South Dakota homicide case that's captured national attention. 

The lethal stabbing was motivated by the 47-year-old husband's rage after his his wife demanded a divorce last winter, according to the prosecuting team.

It was presented to the jury that Reay murdered his wife to avenge her adulterous affair with a co-worker.

In order to cover his tracks, Reay attempted to pin the murder on his wife's lover. When this did not work, he blamed his young daughter of the stabbing, as stated by the defense.

Source: The Associated Press

Nigerian Man Murders Wife in America

On Thursday, July 24, 2008, a 50-year old Nigerian man Michael Collins Iheme shot and killed his 28-year old estranged wife, Anthonia Iheme, in her work parking lot. Witnesses say Michael fired several shots into her car then ran into another car and drove away. Shortly after the crime, he called 911 and told the operator that �Yes, I have killed the woman that messed my life up. A woman that had destroyed me. I am at Shalom West, �my name is Michael.� The police arrested him about 100 meters from the shooting where he stated, �I called the police�.I shot her�I shot her.�

Man murders wife over Facebook row

p2pnet news view | Crime:- A UK man has been jailed for life after murdering his 26-year-old wife, Sarah, over a Facebook row.

Edward Richardson, 41, �stabbed his estranged wife to death in a �frenzied attack� after discovering she had changed her Facebook status, says the Mail Online.

He was stoned on cocaine and alcohol, �when he smashed his way into her parents� home and used a carving knife� to kill her, says the story.

Richardson, �admits killing her, but denies a charge of murder,� says The Sentinel, going on:

�On the third day of his trial, the jury heard the killing happened the day after Sarah changed her personal profile on the internet website Facebook from �married� to �single�.�

A pathologist found more than 50 separate injuries, �including 13 stab wounds,� says the story.

 




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