 islamispeace wrote:
JOUBERAR wrote:
islamispeace wrote:
JOUBERAR wrote:
islamispeace wrote:
Jouberar,
You don't seem to understand the simple facts which BMZ and ShastasAunt have pointed out to you, but you do keep repeating ad nauseum the same misconception. Try to understand. Re-read what BMZ wrote. The answer is there. Also, re-read what ShastasAunt wrote. It points out the holes in your argument, and the illogical premise you hold. Oh and try to control your mouth. Your responses are littered with ad hominem attacks which only expose your own immature, childish mannerisms. Referring to people as "idiotic" will not win you any hearts and minds.
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I challence you man to man "layout' that miracle for me "spiritually" of the seven men that was sleeping for 309 years in a cave what will you gain spiritually for say even sleeping for 3 months no food no live support and you expect it to be a miracle.
And I am telling my point is not Childish this is ungodly lies and what you want to tell me God will allow that humans will make up stories about so called miracles that HE would not allowed. |
Huh? I am not sure what you are asking but I will try to answer. What they "gained" was the ability to resist the oppression of a pagan emperor. By sealing them in the cave, it was the hope of the pagans to kill those pious men. That did not happen as God miraculously kept the men alive but in a state of sleep. God can do anything, right?
If you want to talk about made-up miracles, you should talk about the resurrection of your god. Now that is a lie, if I have ever heard one.
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Who made up your god if you read it was Jesus that was resurected I am not talking about made up miracles Christians even today can bring people back from the dead thats why I believe in Christ his miracles still happens today like he said if you do not believe in me believe my works but in islam you dont see any of there so called miracles today as it was written in the Quran. |
 Who is this guy? Christians are bringing people back from the dead?? I don't have time for such absurdities. Jouberar, you find to find another hobby dude.
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Mt 22:29-32
Jesus said to them in reply, "You are misled because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven. And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God, 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
Mt 5:29-30
(He [Jesus] began to teach them ...) If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one of your members than to have your whole body thrown into Gehenna. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one of your members than to have your whole body go into Gehenna.
Jn 11:22-26
Jesus said to her (Martha), "Your brother will rise." Martha said to him, "I know he will rise, in the resurrection on the last day." Jesus told her, "I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
Jn 6:40
(Jesus explained to them (the disciples):) For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him (on) the last day.
Jn 6:51
(Jesus told them:) I am the living bread ... whoever eats this bread will live forever
Jn 6:54
(Jesus told them:) Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day
1 Cor 15:42-44
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown corruptible; it is raised incorruptible. It is sown dishonorable; it is raised glorious. It is sown weak; it is raised powerful. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.
Christian evidence of raising people form the dead.
A young boy raised from the dead in Finland in April 1950, Branham said, was the fulfilment of a vision he had told audiences during his campaign meetings.
Two years prior to the Helsinki campaign, God had shown Bro. Branham a vision of a boy being raised from the dead. He related the details to his audiences and asked them to write the vision in the flyleaf of their Bibles. The vision was fulfilled at the scene of an accident, near Kuopio, Finland, where a boy on a bicycle had been struck by a car and killed. The Branham party travelling in a motorcade came upon the scene and Brother Branham, asking that the sheet covering the body be removed, recognized the boy to be the same one he had seen in the vision. He prayed and the child was raised from the dead.
Branham vehemently believed that the Bible was the infallible Word of God. He stated that anything contrary to the Word of God was Satan's kingdom.
Another evidence.
The report reads, "Although some of what happened to Pastor Ekechukwu is certainly extra-biblical, none of it is unbiblical. Indeed, neither the story of pastor Ekechukwu's resurrection or the story of your salvation is found in the Bible, making them both extra-biblical, but neither should be discounted on that basis!" (The italic quotes in this critique are direct quotations from David Kirkwood�s article documenting this resurrection..)
"The next morning, when the mortician attempted to cut Daniel's inner thigh in order to insert a tube by which he could inject more embalming fluid, he experienced a strange shock that pushed him away from the corpse. This did not surprise him, as he had experienced similar forces before and attributed them to occult powers (such things are widely practiced in Africa and highly respected by most African pastors whom I know). After a second attempt and a second shock, he concluded that Daniel must have been a member of a powerful secret society. He assumed, however, that after some occult sacrifices and incantations the powers in the corpse would subside, and he could then complete his work. (This mortician, of course, was not a Christian, but converted after Daniel's resurrection.) Incidentally, Daniel said that people could smell the embalming chemicals coming out of his body for two weeks after his resurrection. They would hug him and hold their noses!"
"Daniel's wife experienced a dream in which she saw the face of her husband, and he was asking her why they had left him in the mortuary. He stated that he was not dead and that she should take him to Onitsha where German evangelist Reinhard Bonnke was preaching. She determined to do so, even though her family thought she was out of her mind
How do I know that this dream of Daniel�s wife was the fulfilment of Acts 2:17?.
The information from Pastor Eku�s wife�s dream was that "he [Daniel] stated that he was not dead and that she should take him to Onitsha where German evangelist Reinhard Bonnke was preaching." If this is a true statement or revelation in the dream, then this is not the story of a resurrection from the dead but a 42-hour near-death experience and then the human being was resuscitated. There�s a conflict here. The dream said that Dan was not dead, but David Kirkwood�s story stated that
"Finally they drove to the Eunice Clinic, and there Daniel was confirmed to be dead by Doctor Josse Annebunwa. There was no breathing, no heartbeat or pulse, and Daniel's pupils were fixed. The doctor said that there was nothing he could do. A death certificate was issued at 11:30 P.M., November 30, 2001. . . The mortician, however, had to cut the clothing in order to clothe Daniel because his body was as stiff as a board."
The most surprising thing is what happened next. The escorting angel told Pastor Daniel, �If your record is to be called here, you will in no doubt be thrown into hell.� Pastor Daniel immediately defended himself saying, �I am a man of God! I serve Him with all my heart!� But a Bible immediately appeared in the angel's hand, and it was opened to Matthew 5 where Jesus warned that if one calls his brother a fool he is guilty enough to go into the hell of fire (see Matt. 5:21-22). Pastor Daniel knew he was guilty for the angry words spoken to his wife. The angel also reminded him that Jesus promised that God will not forgive our sins if we do not forgive others (see Matt. 6:14-15) because we will reap what we have sown. Only those who are merciful will obtain mercy (Matt 5:7). The angel told Daniel that the prayers he prayed as he was dying in the hospital were of no effect, because he refused to forgive his wife even when she attempted to reconcile on the morning of his fatal accident."
Performing miracles is not necessarily a sign of spiritual acceptance with God and assurance of a person's entrance into God's eternal kingdom
I trust and hope that the testimony contained essential gospel content and not just the unbiblical invitation to "ask Jesus into your heart." The verses of Romans 10:9-10, 17 provide some core elements of this gospel:
"If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. . . So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ."
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What about the resurrections of Lazarus (John 11), the raising of Jairus�s daughter (Luke 8), the raising of the son of the widow of Nain (Luke 7), the resurrection of Tabitha/Dorcas (Acts 9:36ff)?
This is not my hobby but God's reality thats why I have a great love and fear for God and I have no interest in material things.
"And as you go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons: freely you have received, freely give." (Matthew 10:7-8)
To deny that God can raise the dead, as he has promised to do (cf. Dan. 12:2; Jn. 5:28-29; 1 Cor. 15), is an expression of unbelief. Actually, it reflects upon the power of the Almighty.
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